"Anonymous" Revealed as Long-Running FBI Sting Operation

[saxitoxin]

The much-heralded "Anonymous" and "LulzSec" turn out to be elaborate FBI honey pots. Today U.S. Secret Police (FBI) forces fanned across the globe rounding up numerous high-level "hackers" who had been denounced to them by the semi-mythical "Sabu" - purported "wanted" leader of "Anonymous" - who turned out to be a run-of-the-mill FBI informant. The false-front criminal operation was a State Security honey pot designed to bring all the world's most talented hackers into one place where they could be rounded up and relocated to U.S. prison camps.

http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments ... g_for_the/

http://gizmodo.com/5890825/lulzsec-lead ... -anonymous

"Sabu" had been turning over details on the entire "Anonymous" organization to the Secret Police for more than 2 years, even while he was directing hacktivist attacks at supposed "targets" which would be dutifully and breathlessly reported by the corporate media - but were designed to attract even more lone wolf hackers into Anonymous' (FBI) fold by ramping up publicity ...

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/03 ... ackers.pdf

While working for the US Government, Sabu's Secret Police superiors ordered him to found the new group "LulzSec" to snare even more enemies of the state.

[saxitoxin]

In other words, every "leak" you've seen for the last 2+ years had been pre-vetted by the Secret Police. They were all things you were supposed to see.

Remember, foolish westerners, everyone you've been told is your friend is your enemy, everyone you've been told is your enemy is your friend!

[Lootifer]

You havent provided info for your last titbit, that is Lulz sec was setup for the purpose of a sting. The story sounds like he/Lulzsec was originally a genuine hacking outfit, but once he got caught they used him to capture other members of Lulzsec.

[natty dread]

You havent provided info for your last titbit, that is Lulz sec was setup for the purpose of a sting. The story sounds like he/Lulzsec was originally a genuine hacking outfit, but once he got caught they used him to capture other members of Lulzsec.

Yep, that's the impression I got as well.

[saxitoxin]

You havent provided info for your last titbit

[saxitoxin]

You havent provided info for your last titbit, that is Lulz sec was setup for the purpose of a sting. The story sounds like he/Lulzsec was originally a genuine hacking outfit, but once he got caught they used him to capture other members of Lulzsec.

Yep, that's the impression I got as well.

Lulzesc first emerged in May 2011.

According to the U.S. Grand Jury indictment, Sabu had been an FBI informant for at least 2 years.

The current year is 2012.

[saxitoxin]

LMAO!!!!!!!

A second document shows that Monsegur – styled this time as CW-1 – was provided an FBI-owned computer to facilitate the release of 5m emails taken from US security consultancy Stratfor and which are now being published by WikiLeaks.That suggests the FBI may have had an inside track on discussions between Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, and Anonymous, another hacking group, about the leaking of thousands of confidential emails and documents.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... sfeed=true

The FBI themselves "leaked" the Stratfor emails. As far as we know they may have leaked the "State Department cables."

And yet everyone will still believe the easy 2-dimensional explanation that Bashar al-Assad is some kind of moustachioed cartoon bad guy, like Col. Qaddafi before him. Even after the curtain is pulled 95% of the way back you humans are so gullible you'll hold onto the belief that the last 5% contains the comfortable truth you once knew.

[Haggis_McMutton]

good, this'll teach the next hacker group how they need to operate.

the only way for "hacktivists" to really function is as a peer to peer network.
no privileged members
no connections to anyone except the few you're working with on any operation
no trust

[Lootifer]

You havent provided info for your last titbit, that is Lulz sec was setup for the purpose of a sting. The story sounds like he/Lulzsec was originally a genuine hacking outfit, but once he got caught they used him to capture other members of Lulzsec.

Yep, that's the impression I got as well.

Lulzesc first emerged in May 2011.

According to the U.S. Grand Jury indictment, Sabu had been an FBI informant for at least 2 years.

The current year is 2012.

Ah right; not gunna lie, couldnt be fucked looking through the PDF indictment.

[saxitoxin]

Now, ten minutes ago, "Anonymous" has just "hacked" the Panda Security website -

http://pandalabs.pandasecurity.com/

- to prove they still exist. But do they or are the Secret Police just trying to play on people's hopes by milking out the last pieces of usefulness of their "Anonymous" front operation? To reassure everyone that there is still some domestic dissent ... an Emmanuel Goldstein through which the plebes can funnel their anger and be safely observed ... while in reality the FBI-Secret Police have their fingers in every pot.

When Anonymous went after the Church of Scientology didn't ol' Saxi question how anti-establishment a group could be when it was doing the dirty work of the "west" German Secret Police (AKA "Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz")?

[Juan_Bottom]

Dude I don't understand what I'm looking at anymore. This is all screwed up.... does the word "color" actually have a "u" in it? This is turning everything upside down for me. I need to stop using my third facebook account for planning shit. This fricking internet.

[BigBallinStalin]

good, this'll teach the next hacker group how they need to operate.

the only way for "hacktivists" to really function is as a peer to peer network.
no privileged members
no connections to anyone except the few you're working with on any operation
no trust

That comes with a huge price in ineffectiveness.

[saxitoxin]

Another thing to marinate upon ...

If Sabu was FBI informant this long, "Occupy" essentially was kickstarted by the Secret Police [FBI]. (Note I didn't say founded, I said kickstarted. People can unintentionally kickstart something, however, at this point are you very likely to believe an organization that was able to engineer this level of multi-layered deception that clouded the global media, hundreds of hackers and the viewing public for several years makes very many mistakes?)

When "Occupy" started Saxi, as recorded in The Club, refused to support it saying it was a regime-planned protest to distract from the Libyan genocide. Ol' Saxi said "I've seen a revolution and this ain't it! Once Libya is lidded, it will putter out." Everyone else said "Saxi you ol' kook, you're nutso! This is a grassroots thing, bro!" Well don't you kids ever question ol' Sax again! (I say that each time I'm proven right on something and each time all you kids keep runnin' out onto my garden with your volleyballs and autobots anyway. LE SIGH)

[BigBallinStalin]

Well, it's just the nature of defection, sax. The FBI used Sabu in order to further penetrate the Lulzsec movement. They can't simply stop at Sabu; otherwise, the operation wouldn't have been nearly as effective. Another "Sabu" could easily restart the movement.

(1) All the FBI has to do is sit back and let the organization do its thing, which explains the allegedly "kickstarted" Lulzsec ops.

OR,

(2) the FBI was in the process of collecting more information, i.e. tracking and ID'ing people as they committed crimes. That's how they have to build their case in order to imprison the Lulzsec "chiefs" (for lack of a better term).

I'm opting for (2);

[saxitoxin]

Myth: The FBI is just about chasing down bank robbers and drug kingpins and is populated by paunchy, middle-aged, balding guys wearing cheap suits and driving Ford Crown Victorias.

Remember ...

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs

Q: Is the FBI a type of national police force?
A: No. The FBI is a national security organization.