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jgordon1111 wrote:a little skill at being right in reading the game log if you go for a quick kill. But none the less yes 90% luck on first to go.
I disagree on pit being a coward, playing each of you 1vs1 is fair. playing you together in a dubs game right now with an unknown partner for his is not.
Now lets be gentlemen and come back to the quarrel once he finds a partner that he knows and can work with, then I believe once he feels it is equal ground he would be glad to play a dubs challenge. But that is for him to say not me.
Oh and freestyle is not really skill as far as I am concerned it breaks down to lucky dice which usually goes to the attacker and how fast your computer is. Thats not real skill gentlemen.
I watch alot of your freestyle speed games and am quite amused most of the time. you play those for a reason and you know it.
lolz freestyle requires MORE skill. espically with one minute turns. that means u only have a minute to come up with a strat and then implement it. and since both players can react all at once you have o make split second decisions at a moments notice. unlike in casual games were you get 24 hours to come up with a strat and then after your oppenentn attacks you you get another 24 hours to react. in one minute fs speed games you get seconds to react. and very few can do this consistently and win. how can fs be such luck and yet some of us win on it so consistently?? its okay some people cant make the split second decision and they need hours to talk and decide what move to make. we fs 1 minute turn guys that are actually good at it thrive on making split second decisions. so i ask you what takes more skill. split second decision or decision that you get 24 hours to make.........
you wait for one weak player once the cards get to 20 and then whoever is fastest wins,lol not skill except in how fast your computer is.
So Hey your are good at that,good for you and those of you who prefer freestyle.
I for the most part will stick to how its played in normal circumstances were my strat wins or loses.
Except that rare occassion I slip into one where the colonels etc dont have time to go back and see if I know what I am doing
So be friendly to each other its better for everyone
jgordon1111 wrote:all that has to happen is ljex accept the 1vs1 challenge then
jgordon1111 wrote:you missed it louie almost everyone that has played a map consistently can make the split second choice,its the computer speed that makes the difference usually.
We are not going to agree on this as I have my opinion you have yours.
Case in point a couple of days ago fs pelop fog at the critical moment I waited for green to hit red again,and moved knowing yellow would jump.
in one second I blocked green from being able to finish red and cover red so yellow couldnt finish him and then in turn cripple yellow. three colonels and a captain. who didnt know me but found out that I was faster.
That is why I dont consider it skill just speed of the computer and why I dont play it often.
Because everyone there was familiar with the map and each knew what they had to do to win, I was faster end of game
army of nobunaga wrote:Commander62890 wrote:army of nobunaga wrote:glad to see people of higher ranks hitting each other for bragging rights.
It's more like an elite player "hitting" an average player for being completely obnoxious, but I agree... a step in the right direction, nonetheless.
ljex elite?
well maybe, that guy has some skills and will actually play a lot of different maps.
he and a buddy cheated me one night on speed like 2 years ago and I have had him foed ever since. but I agree, he might be elite.
ljex wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:all that has to happen is ljex accept the 1vs1 challenge then
meh, i will if he is actually serious about the challenge but i dont feel like going through the work to make the challenge happen myself.jgordon1111 wrote:you missed it louie almost everyone that has played a map consistently can make the split second choice,its the computer speed that makes the difference usually.
We are not going to agree on this as I have my opinion you have yours.
Case in point a couple of days ago fs pelop fog at the critical moment I waited for green to hit red again,and moved knowing yellow would jump.
in one second I blocked green from being able to finish red and cover red so yellow couldnt finish him and then in turn cripple yellow. three colonels and a captain. who didnt know me but found out that I was faster.
That is why I dont consider it skill just speed of the computer and why I dont play it often.
Because everyone there was familiar with the map and each knew what they had to do to win, I was faster end of game
Freestyle is not all about speed and that is where you are wrong. Does speed help, yes it helps a log but there is way more to it than just speed. One at a certain point speed matters little, once you can attack 1 region per second or so then you are in good shape for speed to not matter too much. But also there are slower players who have made the best of it, one example is prankcall back when he used to play i was probably twice as fast and half the player. You can look up the exact stats if you want but i can guarantee that he won more of the speed fs escalating games we played together than i did.
jgordon1111 wrote:ljex wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:all that has to happen is ljex accept the 1vs1 challenge then
meh, i will if he is actually serious about the challenge but i dont feel like going through the work to make the challenge happen myself.jgordon1111 wrote:you missed it louie almost everyone that has played a map consistently can make the split second choice,its the computer speed that makes the difference usually.
We are not going to agree on this as I have my opinion you have yours.
Case in point a couple of days ago fs pelop fog at the critical moment I waited for green to hit red again,and moved knowing yellow would jump.
in one second I blocked green from being able to finish red and cover red so yellow couldnt finish him and then in turn cripple yellow. three colonels and a captain. who didnt know me but found out that I was faster.
That is why I dont consider it skill just speed of the computer and why I dont play it often.
Because everyone there was familiar with the map and each knew what they had to do to win, I was faster end of game
Freestyle is not all about speed and that is where you are wrong. Does speed help, yes it helps a log but there is way more to it than just speed. One at a certain point speed matters little, once you can attack 1 region per second or so then you are in good shape for speed to not matter too much. But also there are slower players who have made the best of it, one example is prankcall back when he used to play i was probably twice as fast and half the player. You can look up the exact stats if you want but i can guarantee that he won more of the speed fs escalating games we played together than i did.
Rather surprised you missed what I sad about all of us knowing what we had to do to win ljex.We all knew the map,where we had to go and what we had to do,skill portion is now out of the way. From right there its whoever is fastest.
pitrules88 wrote:scratch that, he's not 1900 anymore... hes below 1800... and still dropping... just can't get over the fact that he is telling me how good he is and how bad i am - just.. wow
pitrules88 wrote:Speed is going to be a big component of 1-minute game, whether it's freestyle or sequential. The reason I prefer freestyle for 1v1 games is because sequential results in a huge advantage to whoever goes first. It's simply not fair if you have to go second in sequential, so freestyle evens it out a little bit.
I agree with ljex, there is a lot more strategy than people think, hence I ran my score all the way above 3000 by playing 1v1 freestyle classics... so that cant simply be luck.
In other news, I just noticed Louie92 has a score of 1900, and he is calling me out saying I am all talk blah blah blah. I will never play another game against that moron. Ljex, if you want to play doubles, find another partner. I am still happy to play u in 1v1 competition.
pitrules88 wrote:scratch that, he's not 1900 anymore... hes below 1800... and still dropping... just can't get over the fact that he is telling me how good he is and how bad i am - just.. wow
pitrules88 wrote:quick update on louie92, hes now a 3 striper lol... my point ljex is that this moron continues to brag about how much better he is than me, yet he is more unstable than anyone on this site.. when you lose 1000+ points in a day it's not about skill, it's about losing your head. Now I know he will say "im just playing games for fun, i dont care about points" but honestly, he is just humiliating himself as usual.
and ljex i just dont understand why u continue to defend this nutjob. Yes, if I played 30 doodle assassin games I'd lose points, but sheesh I'd probably win a few here and there...
pitrules88 wrote:and ljex i just dont understand why u continue to defend this nutjob. Yes, if I played 30 doodle assassin games I'd lose points, but sheesh I'd probably win a few here and there...
pitrules88 wrote:ljex please help him! He needs you man.
jgordon1111 wrote:So when something unusual or a mistake happens, yes all of you see it and know what to do immediately because you know the board, skill is over at that point, speed kills. Right or Wrong?
Louie92 wrote:pitrules88 wrote:ljex please help him! He needs you man.
u know what cracks me up is that pit rules totally aviods how i have beaten him so much more than he has beaten me i dont know how else u prove that your a better player than when u beat them on their home map over and over again. and rank doesnt matter pitty i would still run you all over your map classic. i would beat you more than u would beat me. i always have and always will. rank doesnt = skill
ljex wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:So when something unusual or a mistake happens, yes all of you see it and know what to do immediately because you know the board, skill is over at that point, speed kills. Right or Wrong?
Wrong, mistakes happen rounds in advance of someone being killed more often than not. You can look at a pretty good number of my games and realize that i am the one going for most of the kills. Its all about setting yourself up to not be killed and to kill others at the same time. Often a fine line lays between the two sides of that coin. You say skill is over at that point but this is the root of where you start to go wrong, skill is not over at that point...skill has already happened. It is a skill to know and read the board and to be prepared of that possibility to happen. That is no different than sequential...sure speed is all that matters after all the skill has been placed into the move but that doesn't mean any fast player can have the skill to be prepared for what eventually happens.
pitrules88 wrote:yep ljex, you nailed it
I'm not saying anyone in this thread does this, but there's a lot of high ranked players who play 1v1 on a tricky map to run their score all the way up. The fact that I play it on classic not only gives lower rated players a much better chance of winning, but they also get to deploy first and auto their stack on mine putting me at a huge disadvantage.
So I'm still waiting for you guys to man-up and admit that I have some serious skills at this.
jgordon1111 wrote:ljex wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:So when something unusual or a mistake happens, yes all of you see it and know what to do immediately because you know the board, skill is over at that point, speed kills. Right or Wrong?
Wrong, mistakes happen rounds in advance of someone being killed more often than not. You can look at a pretty good number of my games and realize that i am the one going for most of the kills. Its all about setting yourself up to not be killed and to kill others at the same time. Often a fine line lays between the two sides of that coin. You say skill is over at that point but this is the root of where you start to go wrong, skill is not over at that point...skill has already happened. It is a skill to know and read the board and to be prepared of that possibility to happen. That is no different than sequential...sure speed is all that matters after all the skill has been placed into the move but that doesn't mean any fast player can have the skill to be prepared for what eventually happens.
I am not disagreeing with you ljex, what I am saying is at the final critical moment. Once the mistake is made all of you recognize it(because you know the map) now it is purely who is the fastest to get those cards. Yes the skill to get you there is now over, the turn in is the winner, because now everyone is waiting to see who is next and if they can get there first. Thats all speed ljex.
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