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Re: [CC3] Third Annual Conqueror's Cup! - Sign Up Now!!!

Postby Leehar on Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:07 am

The F400 excludes clans with less than 150 weighting points I think, but it still compiles the whole list, so I think it should be possible for you to find where some clans are even if they haven't gotten the full weighting yet
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Postby Sniper08 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:12 am

Chuuuuck wrote:I don't know much about the F400, does anyone know why some clans aren't on there even when they have completed challenges?

Is it just because it hasn't been updated yet?

If I ask for it to be updated right before I do seedings, will all of these clans be in there?

Is there anyway someone could have 2 completed challenges at the end of signups yet not be on the F400? If so, I need to figure out what to do with them.

Also, would like to hear more opinions on cup-tied rule. I still feel bad for punishing legitimate clan switches for 6-9 months, but need a way to prevent obvious abuse. I like Dako's idea of they have to sit out 1 entire challenge. So if you join a clan in the round of 16, you have to sit out the round of 8 and you can play the final 4 if they are there.

This allows all players to start playing within a couple of months after joining, either they win and you can start playing, or they lose and you can go do other clan wars with them.


i think it has to do with the clans not have enough weight to be on the rankings though i could be wrong, the rankings get updated every month usually at the start of the month so id finish sign ups for CC3 at the start of any month or contact Gunn and ask for a special updating of it.

i like the cup tied rule as it is , you only get one shot at the cup each year so it should be only with one clan. there is always normal challenges for them to be playing with their new clan. But if its a real problem stopping someone from playing then maybe just not allow the player to play in matches like the semi final/ final if their new clan gets that far, this would make sure the final has only the original members from the start of the cup who win the cup for their clan
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Postby MudPuppy on Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:27 am

I prefer the current limit on maps of twice per round and the current "cup tied" rule applicable for the entire tourney.
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Postby Chuuuuck on Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:37 am

John Deere wrote:
Chuuuuck wrote:I don't know much about the F400, does anyone know why some clans aren't on there even when they have completed challenges?

Is it just because it hasn't been updated yet?

If I ask for it to be updated right before I do seedings, will all of these clans be in there?

Is there anyway someone could have 2 completed challenges at the end of signups yet not be on the F400? If so, I need to figure out what to do with them.

Also, would like to hear more opinions on cup-tied rule. I still feel bad for punishing legitimate clan switches for 6-9 months, but need a way to prevent obvious abuse. I like Dako's idea of they have to sit out 1 entire challenge. So if you join a clan in the round of 16, you have to sit out the round of 8 and you can play the final 4 if they are there.

This allows all players to start playing within a couple of months after joining, either they win and you can start playing, or they lose and you can go do other clan wars with them.

Fd400 you have to have enough weighted points to get on there. You can have completed 2 or more wars and still not be on there. I think cup either stays how it is, or another rule set in stone. Please excuse me if I wouldnt trust your "non biased" opinion if you were to make a decision on my clan ;) I do prefer the current cup tied rule though.



I don't like your clan too much or the members in it. But, I have created and ran this tournament since the time you first joined this site.

There are pages of posts and tons of PMs (not sure if in my old files or not) from people complimenting on how professional this thing has been run and how I have always made fair judgements for the integrity of the tournament, regardless of my personal beliefs. I have actually made several decisions in favor of clans I didn't prefer or against what I have personally wanted to see because they were the right (and most fair) decisions. Why else do you think nearly every clan on the site participates or wishes they could participate?

If you do not trust my judgement, feel free to not sign your clan up.
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Postby freakns on Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:53 am

now Chuck, dont get all too cocky and defensive. we all know how much have you done for clan community, and couple of concerns from one clan(and you have to admit, those concerns are legit as there is bad blood between PACK and... well, pretty much everyone else :D ) shouldnt get you all pumped up. we all trust you and while we dont agree with everything you do, we will respect it, and you know that. also, i think you are aware that CC3 without PACK wouldnt feel right. we all want to bring them down, so please make sure we get a chance :twisted:


also, Otpisani are in!

we have completed our first challenge(28-13 win vs AKA) and have decisive number of games for official win in another challenge(31-15 lead against TNC, with 61 game challenge), although im not sure will that challenge be over in next 7 days. we dont mind if you put us on last place due the fact we probably wont be on next F400 list as long as we have a chance to participate :)

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Postby General Brock II on Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:59 pm

1st Regiment of Foot Guards is in.

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Postby laughingcavalier on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:54 pm

'Kin ' ell chuck we haven't finished losing the last one yet.
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Postby Chuuuuck on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:08 pm

laughingcavalier wrote:'Kin ' ell chuck we haven't finished losing the last one yet.


I am confused as to what "Kin ' ell" means.
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Postby Rodion on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:09 pm

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Postby laughingcavalier on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:15 pm

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Postby Chuuuuck on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:23 pm

Still confused...
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Postby Lindax on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:42 pm

Chuuuuck wrote:Still confused...


"F u c k i n g - h e l l" is what he's saying. :D

Have only 7 clans signed up for this?

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Postby Chuuuuck on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:54 pm

Lindax wrote:
Chuuuuck wrote:Still confused...


"F u c k i n g - h e l l" is what he's saying. :D

Have only 7 clans signed up for this?

Lx


Just updated the 3rd post. We are up to 11 now. Signups have only been open for a couple of days. The higher ranked clans have typically discussed things longer and take a little more time to start joining. I fully expect them all to be in here playing with maybe 1 or 2 opting out.
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Postby freakns on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:56 pm

Lindax wrote:
Chuuuuck wrote:Still confused...


"F u c k i n g - h e l l" is what he's saying. :D

Have only 7 clans signed up for this?

Lx

11 so far... top clans will probably sign up in last two days. until then they will pretend they are discussing will they play, like they have something else to do :D (and we all know only TSM are questionable as they are use to have 16 months break between clan wars :D)
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Postby Chuuuuck on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:59 pm

Give me feedback on this for a Cup tied rule. Every clan can bring in one player who isn't cup tied (I think this helps with normal movements throught caln). But that one player still has to sit out 1 entire round with the new clan. i.e. if they join while the clan is in the final 8, they have to sit out the entire semi finals and could start participating in the finals if the clan made it.

After 1 player who was cup tied has been added to a clan, any other players who are cup tied that have to join that clan are ineligible.

A clan can not pick which one they use if another one comes along later. They can only use the first player that was officially a part of the clan (shown on the usergroup roster).

This can still be discussed, I am just trying to be creative in fixing the issues we have had in the past. I know all of you are just saying "keep the cup tied rule" because most of you are very committed to your clan and aren't going anywhere. But each year I have had to deal with a handful of guys who truly just moved on and them sitting out for a long time when in reality, they were not making a major impact in the war.
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