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Postby Nebuchadnezer on Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:59 pm

I had a thought today. Typically, in mafia you are assigned a role, and are stuck with that role all game long. That's great if you're doctor or cop or mafia...or at least some kind of special night action. But if you're Vanilla Townie, you're a bit less motivated and left feeling quite in the dark.

Is there any precedence to having everyone be a VT, and using specialty items to enhance a character's abilities? Some of these items may be awesome, like a "double-barreled shot gun" Or some of them may be quite irrelevant "pea-shooter." Now, you would still have mafia vs. town, but players would all have an equal shot at getting items at the beginning. You could also have roles that would steal items or give items away. This might spice up the game a bit, as players would never know what they were getting, or using, or losing from one day to the next.

Does that mess with the setup too much and allow for too much inbalance in the game? I think you could still weight the game evenly in terms of fixed roles for each side. Just adding the items to keep everyone alert.

Thoughts? Am I totally whacked on this idea?
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Re: Using items

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:30 pm

Every once in a while a game like this comes along.Zelda Mafia used this kind of game mechanics.

Usually ths complicates setup but this makes it more fun :D
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Re: Using items

Postby chapcrap on Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:33 pm

I would play a game like that.
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Re: Using items

Postby freezie on Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:54 am

This is a great exemple of games like that:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=610&t=134695
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Re: Using items

Postby pancakemix on Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:49 am

Here's the Zelda Mafia thread for reference:

viewtopic.php?f=610&t=148353
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Re: Using items

Postby zimmah on Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:59 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Every once in a while a game like this comes along.Zelda Mafia used this kind of game mechanics.

Usually ths complicates setup but this makes it more fun :D



exactly what i was going to say.

items make the game more fun i'd say, but it's a bit harder to create a game like that
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Re: Using items

Postby dazza2008 on Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:59 pm

I did a game at christmas in my clan forum where Santa was Town Item Gifter. All the rest of the town started as VT's and all the mafia were goons. The item gifter gave out so many gifts(roles) during each day. He did not know what was in each 1. They gave whoeer got them a certain role whether town or mafia. It worked pretty well. There was nobody swithing items but that would have been pretty cool. I might try a game like that sometime. I am not sure if I could fit a theme to it though.
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Re: Using items

Postby safariguy5 on Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:39 pm

Rolegift Mafia had a variation where you had to gift your night action to someone each night and they could choose to use or not use it. It was quite interesting because mafia had night actions as well and you weren't sure what your role was until you saw a pattern after a few nights.
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Re: Using items

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:36 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Rolegift Mafia had a variation where you had to gift your night action to someone each night and they could choose to use or not use it. It was quite interesting because mafia had night actions as well and you weren't sure what your role was until you saw a pattern after a few nights.


I immensely enjoyed that game. If / ever decided to do a second one, I would be thrilled. 'Twas a fun game. I replaced somebody, and the first night I got sent like 4-5 gifts. Sweet!

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Re: Using items

Postby everywhere116 on Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:29 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Rolegift Mafia had a variation where you had to gift your night action to someone each night and they could choose to use or not use it. It was quite interesting because mafia had night actions as well and you weren't sure what your role was until you saw a pattern after a few nights.


I immensely enjoyed that game. If / ever decided to do a second one, I would be thrilled. 'Twas a fun game. I replaced somebody, and the first night I got sent like 4-5 gifts. Sweet!

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Re: Using items

Postby / on Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:14 pm

I'm glad so many of you liked rolegift, I'll see about modding another sometime. :D
Like I said at the end though, I fully support whoever wants to mess around with it, copy it or whatever.

I'm currently at my limit for modding/playing though, so Nebuchadnezer, (and whoever else wants to mod some highly fashionable item games ;) ) it sounds like an awesome idea, I'd be glad to look over any setup you come up with if you want, or even (sort of) co-mod if you need one to get around the two completed games thing.
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Re: Using items

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:29 am

I have completed two games...three if getting day killed counts as finishing. If I mod, I want to either try something different like items, or something totally messed up so that nobody can ' meta' the game...however, there are far too many games open in the general forum right now....Simpsons, battle of bulge, matrix, harry potter...I'm not sure I could fill a game, since I'm too new.

I do think I have a great idea that would be a hit right now...don't have everything drawn up yet, though...when I get to that point, I'll run it by this forum. Thanks everyone for the feed back and links.

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Re: Using items

Postby dazza2008 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:28 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:I have completed two games...three if getting day killed counts as finishing. If I mod, I want to either try something different like items, or something totally messed up so that nobody can ' meta' the game...however, there are far too many games open in the general forum right now....Simpsons, battle of bulge, matrix, harry potter...I'm not sure I could fill a game, since I'm too new.

I do think I have a great idea that would be a hit right now...don't have everything drawn up yet, though...when I get to that point, I'll run it by this forum. Thanks everyone for the feed back and links.

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I think the game would fill since it is something different. I think lots of guys would join just for that. Look how quick power draft mafia filled up.

Maybe if you made it a smaller game too since the games in signups are quite big games.
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Re: Using items

Postby everywhere116 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:18 pm

Original Rolegift was 12, I believe. That would probably work. Maybe a few more.
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Re: Using items

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:03 pm

Okay, I'll throw out my idea...give me your thoughts.

I was thinking of running a Hunger Games mafia.

Pros:
1. Popular story right now
2. I would use items.
3. Besides main characters, a lot of "other" players to mold how I want...or not.

Cons:
1. I would need 24 players to start (2 from each district)
2. Some of the key characters would necessarily have to be left out.

So...give me some feed back. Like I said earlier, I don't have the complete game set up yet, and I keep changing my mind on how to do things.
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