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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby Rodion on Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:52 pm

Other than concluding Safari is really unlikely to be the "lab coat SK", I have no real leads over here.

Monkey/Saf (assuming Saf is flipping mafia), you probably have more information on the game as you've drawn mafia in (at least) one side. Is there any information you can share that might be of use to Town B?
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby Rodion on Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:53 pm

Rodion wrote:Other than concluding Safari is really unlikely to be the "lab coat SK", I have no real leads over here.


Also New Guy B is cleared by Victor Sullivan A through masonry.
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby Rodion on Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:WHat a dick move replying to me in the thread I can't post in :x

-SG7 ( :lol: )


Didn't want to clutter Side B with Side A discussion, sorry. :razz:
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:02 pm

SO on this side (pulling from memory) we have the following cleared townies:

MIlkshake (BP VT until D4 was it?)
NG1 (from mason w/ VS-SideA)
SG7 (commuter)
VS (skitzo)
DrunkMonkey (Side A flipped mafia, meaning it's likely he's town here)
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OK, I'm not sure how cleared the last two on the list are, but it's a little bit of info we've gathered so far. I forget currenty who my suspects were, so I'll have to go back and check, but... yeah... See you guys tomorrow

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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby safariguy5 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:06 pm

Rodion wrote:Other than concluding Safari is really unlikely to be the "lab coat SK", I have no real leads over here.

Monkey/Saf (assuming Saf is flipping mafia), you probably have more information on the game as you've drawn mafia in (at least) one side. Is there any information you can share that might be of use to Town B?

You're asking us for information in an ongoing game. I can safely say that I am not the SKer in side B and I am town (in Side B). There were strict guidelines from / to only discuss the Side A thread and to not reveal what we were in Side B to mafia. So no, I can't help town at all, and if I may be so bold, even if I did have information, I still probably wouldn't say anything anyways because mafia has not lost Side A yet.
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:09 pm

So saf is mafia in Side A. ok, doesn't help much now that we already knew it. So it seems likely saf is also Town in Side B, so that helps us too
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby safariguy5 on Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:22 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:So saf is mafia in Side A. ok, doesn't help much now that we already knew it. So it seems likely saf is also Town in Side B, so that helps us too

I say it because I'm already lynched in that side. Denying it won't change anything.
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby / on Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:48 pm

No votes to count, deadline Friday!
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby jonty125 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:43 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:So saf is mafia in Side A. ok, doesn't help much now that we already knew it. So it seems likely saf is also Town in Side B, so that helps us too


I dunno, if the two sides are independent from each other then saf has the same chance of being mafia on this side.
If the two sides are linked, then saf could be mafia on both sides (i.e. believes those with guns should rule the world) or M/T (hates one side likes the other)
If the two sides are oppositely linked e.g. shield. Then saf is town.

So, I don't think we can clear saf for been mafia on the other side.
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:01 am

I know you don't have any reason to trust a guy who just flipped mafia on one side, but here we go:

My side B role is: “The Investigator”, Town Role Cop

Each night I submit a name, and I get both of their roles. I don't know which side is which, nor do I know their alignments. This is why I defended Rodion here on D2, because I investigated him N1 and one of his roles is Watcher. Last night I investigated jonty, because I was leading a charge against him in Side A, and I knew if I claimed my role later, I'd need to prove I investigated him. My result for jonty was a killing role on both sides. My guess is that I accidentally found the SK. It seems probable that the man in the white coat has a device which allows him to cross sides, and I think he killed me on Side A last night.
/ wrote:A person in a lab coat walks these city streets with wonder, how could this place have turned out so differently?
No the figure had to stay focused, everyone here needed to die. He enters the elevator and presses the roof button; he needs a better view of his targets.
As it is about to close a dazed looking man in a tweed jacket stops the door and enters with him, but doesn't press any buttons. The elevator rises higher and higher along with the scientist's apprehension until it finally peaks and the door opens. But the dazed man just stands there not stepping forward, finally the other man pushes him forward. "I'm sorry, my mission is very important, I... Think I should get used to it..." says the lab-coat wearing man with sadness in his voice. "Your existence is detrimental to the greater good" he continues.
Finally the psychiatrist wakes up "huh? What?" Egad! Where am I?!? He turns to the other "Oh it's you! Why do you have that gun? Where is Two Sides?!"
The man in the lab coat freezes, this person shouldn't be HERE! What should be done?
The psychiatrist rambles on, "I had just put myself under hypnosis, I must have wandered over to the city somewhere, hmmm, my other patients mentioned a city too, I wonder what's going on. Ah well, could you give me a ride home?"
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...

"Sure, just turn around for a second." he placed a device on his acquaintance's back, shot him and pushed him off the roof.
Where did he go? See side A to find out.

/ wrote:the townsfolk was a bright flash of light heard a shot and another flash, when they rushed outside there was no living person, just the sheriff's corpse with one bullet in it... Inside the sheriff's pocket they found the poisoned Dixie cup.
drunkmonkey Role Side A, “The Inquisitor”, Mafia Cop, has been killed!

No one had even mentioned a case against me, so I think it would be pretty reckless for a vig to target me. The person with the best motive to kill me was jonty, after I didn't drop my case on him after the first day. And there's the obvious - the only killing role we've seen from Side B has been the man in the white coat.

It's possible there's another explanation for my results, but I have troubling believing someone would get two town-oriented killing roles. I'm claiming now because if jonty is the SK, and knows I'm a role cop, he may kill me here tonight before I get my info out.

vote jonty
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:09 am

I believe your claim DM. VOTE JONTY following role cop.

Also, I doubt we have a vig. If we do, he sure has been one hay of a reckless vig these past few days, or hasn't killed at all.

DM do have any further evidence? just curious

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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:10 am

I also believe DM Vote Jonty
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby Rodion on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:40 am

drunkmonkey wrote:My side B role is: “The Investigator”, Town Role Cop


I'd like a little more information on what you got or how you interpreted your results, precisely how you knew I had the "watcher" role (specific) when you only knew Jonty had "a killing" (general) role.
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:44 am

Rodion wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:My side B role is: “The Investigator”, Town Role Cop


I'd like a little more information on what you got or how you interpreted your results, precisely how you knew I had the "watcher" role (specific) when you only knew Jonty had "a killing" (general) role.


You know as much as I do about that part. For your result I got "Watcher" and "{specific role}". I was only able to narrow down which was which after you claimed here. For jonty I got "killing role" and "killing role". I assume because any more information about a killing role would give away his alignment, but that's just a guess.
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Re: Two Sides Mafia: Side B, Day Three, Crime Free?

Postby Rodion on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:00 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:
Rodion wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:My side B role is: “The Investigator”, Town Role Cop


I'd like a little more information on what you got or how you interpreted your results, precisely how you knew I had the "watcher" role (specific) when you only knew Jonty had "a killing" (general) role.


You know as much as I do about that part. For your result I got "Watcher" and "{specific role}". I was only able to narrow down which was which after you claimed here. For jonty I got "killing role" and "killing role". I assume because any more information about a killing role would give away his alignment, but that's just a guess.


That's very reasonable. It reminds me something about role cops getting "vanilla" results both for vanilla townies and mafia goons ( http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Cop ) so that alignments are not compromised.

Vote Jonty.

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