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Clan League Suggestion Box - Better? ; )

Postby chemefreak on Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:54 pm

Please post your complaints about this year's clan league here so as to avoid muddying up the official thread. Thanks.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Leehar on Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:39 pm

Don't start phase 2 on easter weekend? ;)
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chemefreak on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:25 pm

Leehar wrote:Don't start phase 2 on easter weekend? ;)


I would think everyone would have plenty of time to make their games!
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Leehar on Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:02 am

chemefreak wrote:
Leehar wrote:Don't start phase 2 on easter weekend? ;)


I would think everyone would have plenty of time to make their games!

This is complaint box, I am complaining ;)


I feel that my clan (Empire) was unfairly prejudiced in that the 'equalizing possibilities vis a vis qualification with clans from larger divisions' with adding of only 1 point and 6 wins + losses, severely diminished our win percentage. Our win percentage of 77% was the best across all clans involved in Phase 1, but we were granted a draw against our mythical 6th clan, while other divisions had the opportunity to benefit with a victory from a lesser seed.

While we managed to only suffer being given 3rd place overall despite our superior record, doubtless myriad other clans were forced into lower divisions despite their better results.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby mviola on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:20 pm

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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby jefjef on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:39 pm

chemefreak wrote:
Leehar wrote:Don't start phase 2 on easter weekend? ;)


I would think everyone would have plenty of time to make their games!


Bruceswar wrote:Cheme will issue medals and such soon. It is Easter weekend. :)


...

Easter weekend...

This is Monday and I am just now getting KOA games list finished. Our original contact switched clans and I had to take his place and absolutely am not up to speed on this. So don't feed us the "plenty of time" crap. ;)
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Leehar on Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:21 pm

jefjef wrote:This is Monday and I am just now getting KOA games list finished. Our original contact switched clans and I had to take his place and absolutely am not up to speed on this. So don't feed us the "plenty of time" crap. ;)


Sorry :oops:

And I just now realised that we can't even play them in cl anyway ](*,)

Give more lee-way, specially between phases!
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Great-Ollie on Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:25 pm

jefjef wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
Leehar wrote:Don't start phase 2 on easter weekend? ;)


I would think everyone would have plenty of time to make their games!


Bruceswar wrote:Cheme will issue medals and such soon. It is Easter weekend. :)


...

Easter weekend...

This is Monday and I am just now getting KOA games list finished. Our original contact switched clans and I had to take his place and absolutely am not up to speed on this. So don't feed us the "plenty of time" crap. ;)


jefjef and Leehar if you cannot handle timelines set down by the people who do all the work i suggest you find someone who can out of your 50 members. chemefreak is trying to make this run smooth and avoid the pissing and moaning, so give the organizers and clan mods a break and follow the rules and timelines please. ;) ;)
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Keefie on Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:29 pm

jefjef wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
Leehar wrote:Don't start phase 2 on easter weekend? ;)


I would think everyone would have plenty of time to make their games!


Bruceswar wrote:Cheme will issue medals and such soon. It is Easter weekend. :)


...

Easter weekend...

This is Monday and I am just now getting KOA games list finished. Our original contact switched clans and I had to take his place and absolutely am not up to speed on this. So don't feed us the "plenty of time" crap. ;)


Well as the deadline was last night looks like you'll have your maps and players selected for you :lol:
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Leehar on Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:41 pm

Get things right dudes, this is the the clan league complaints box, not the clan league complainers complaint box, take it somewhere else ;)
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Well as the deadline was last night looks like you'll have your maps and players selected for you :lol:


I think he was actually talking about the whole phase game list. Since it's only 1 map per phase, that usually necessitates getting your list sketched out for the whole phase rather then just the 1 match-up.
I also had to stay up 'til 4am to get the games in for afos, but getting things ready for the rest of the phase should take considerably longer.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby MudPuppy on Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:55 pm

The already tight Easter deadline could have been somewhat alleviated by announcing the schedules at the same time as the division placements. The schedules should have already been set up with generic names that could have been filled as soon as the selections were announced. For example:

    • Round 1: 8 April
        • Team 4 - Team 1
        • Team 5 - Team 2
        • Team 6 - Team 3
        • Team 7 - Team 8
    • Round 2: 15 April
        • Team 2 - Team 4
        • Team 3 - Team 1
        • Team 8 - Team 5
        • Team 7 - Team 6
    • Week 3 = Divisional Knock-Out Tournaments - First Round: 22 April

    • Round 3: 29 April
        • Team 4 - Team 3
        • Team 2 - Team 8
        • Team 1 - Team 7
        • Team 5 - Team 6
    • Round 4 - 6 May
        • Team 8 - Team 4
        • Team 7 - Team 3
        • Team 6 - Team 2
        • Team 5 - Team 1
    • Round 5 - 13 May
        • Team 4 - Team 7
        • Team 8 - Team 6
        • Team 3 - Team 5
        • Team 2 - Team 1
    • Round 6 - 20 May
        • Team 6 - Team 4
        • Team 5 - Team 7
        • Team 1 - Team 8
        • Team 2 - Team 3
    • Round 7 - 27 May
        • Team 4 - Team 5
        • Team 6 - Team 1
        • Team 7 - Team 2
        • Team 8 - Team 3
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Team 2 = IA
Team 3 = EMP
Team 4 = PACK
Team 5 = AOC
Team 6 = AFOS
Team 7 = TSM
Team 8 = KORT

Creating the schedule while we were waiting for the Phase 1 games to finish up would have allowed clans an extra day or two to prepare for their matchups this week.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby MichelSableheart on Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:23 pm

Leehar wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
Leehar wrote:Don't start phase 2 on easter weekend? ;)


I would think everyone would have plenty of time to make their games!

This is complaint box, I am complaining ;)


I feel that my clan (Empire) was unfairly prejudiced in that the 'equalizing possibilities vis a vis qualification with clans from larger divisions' with adding of only 1 point and 6 wins + losses, severely diminished our win percentage. Our win percentage of 77% was the best across all clans involved in Phase 1, but we were granted a draw against our mythical 6th clan, while other divisions had the opportunity to benefit with a victory from a lesser seed.

While we managed to only suffer being given 3rd place overall despite our superior record, doubtless myriad other clans were forced into lower divisions despite their better results.

There is not really a good way to solve that problem, as far as I am aware. Granting you your average result against the other clans in your division also doesn't capture the "weakest clan doesn't exist". And granting the average result of the clan with the same ranking in other divisions against the lowest ranked clan in that division is a solution that's so complicated it becomes unfeasible.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby eddie2 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:15 am

send pm's to clan leaders of the phase 2 starting. i see in our phase there was talk over 2 days of aka and other clans not posting games but nobody contacted the clans to inform them it had started. these clans are now getting issued random games for missing a deadline that nobody had contacted of the start.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Keefie on Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:47 am

Absolute tosh Eddie2. DJTeflon sent a pm to primary contacts on 01Apr. Plus any clan leader/primary/seconadary contact should be checking the forums.

A total non-complaint in my book.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby eddie2 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:52 am

Keefie wrote:Absolute tosh Eddie2. DJTeflon sent a pm to primary contacts on 01Apr. Plus any clan leader/primary/seconadary contact should be checking the forums.

A total non-complaint in my book.

i have no pm for the 1st of april in my inbox or any pm dating back to the 26th march
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