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Who was the greatest American president?

Washington
34
16%
Jefferson
22
10%
Jackson
9
4%
W.H. Harrison
5
2%
Polk
8
4%
Lincoln
48
22%
T. Roosevelt
19
9%
F. Roosevelt
27
12%
Truman
3
1%
Eisenhower
2
1%
Kennedy
6
3%
Reagan
35
16%
 
Total votes : 218

Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:25 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:The answer could not be any more obviously Jefferson.
He is the one who came up with what it means to actually be an American.

Washington used his presidency to award a canal building project to a company he was heavily invested in. He used his office to make money.
Regan invaded and destroyed the government of Grenada, a peaceful island. The complacent American media then created 1,000 excuses for him.
Jefferson did the most as far as expansion. He did bring many together when he said "we are all federalists, we are all Republicans" but T.R. did a lot to make us a superpower and Lincoln saved our union. I think very highly of Jefferson but you can not say that it was obviously anyone.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:25 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:The answer could not be any more obviously Jefferson.
He is the one who came up with what it means to actually be an American.

Washington used his presidency to award a canal building project to a company he was heavily invested in. He used his office to make money.
Regan invaded and destroyed the government of Grenada, a peaceful island. The complacent American media then created 1,000 excuses for him.
Jefferson did the most as far as expansion. He did bring many together when he said "we are all federalists, we are all Republicans" but T.R. did a lot to make us a superpower and Lincoln saved our union. I think very highly of Jefferson but you can not say that it was obviously anyone.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:53 pm

We didn't need T.R. to become a superpower, because the war did that for us.... A greater president would have taken on the military-industrial machine.
Arguably becoming a world leader is the worst thing that could have happened, because our government's own bureaucracy has expanded tenfold as a result. America is also responsible for something like 25 million deaths since WWII, because of proxy wars and embargo's and such. That's also something to consider.

Lincoln I'll give you, as he was a political genius. Only I think it's clear that Jefferson surpasses him. He wrote the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Without those I wouldn't even know what being an American means.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:20 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:We didn't need T.R. to become a superpower, because the war did that for us.... A greater president would have taken on the military-industrial machine.
Arguably becoming a world leader is the worst thing that could have happened, because our government's own bureaucracy has expanded tenfold as a result. America is also responsible for something like 25 million deaths since WWII, because of proxy wars and embargo's and such. That's also something to consider.

Lincoln I'll give you, as he was a political genius. Only I think it's clear that Jefferson surpasses him. He wrote the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Without those I wouldn't even know what being an American means.
He wanted John Adams to write the Declaration and he did not write the Constitution alone, and those were not presidential works. Jefferson was certainly the right man for the time though being that he was very forward thinking. I still think the T.R. belongs amongst the top because of his peacemakeing, his efforts to have a Panama Canal, and his Trustbusting. Truman most certainly made the toughest decision of any president.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:24 pm

You guys are nuts, Polk was clearly the best.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:26 pm

I WANT WOODROW WILSON!!!!

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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:44 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:I WANT WOODROW WILSON!!!!

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After one of our ships was sunk, and the Zimmerman telagram was discovered, the decision to go to war was evident. The League of Nations did not last, A second war was not provented. He also once claimed that the Declaration was not important other than the greivances towards the king.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:50 pm

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Have you people even seen this man? I mean look at him! Obvi the best president.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:55 pm

Baron Von PWN wrote:Image

Have you people even seen this man? I mean look at him! Obvi the best president.


That's Lincoln, right?

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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:59 pm

JJM wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:I WANT WOODROW WILSON!!!!

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After one of our ships was sunk, and the Zimmerman telagram was discovered, the decision to go to war was evident. The League of Nations did not last, A second war was not provented. He also once claimed that the Declaration was not important other than the greivances towards the king.


yeah, the federal reserve and the income tax are pretty awesome too. All about Freedom and Liberty

I also love any president who won election on the promise to keep us out of the war, but went into war just a few months after his inauguration. And then there are some peoples favorite thing about Woody... he was easily the most openly racist president we ever had in the last 100 years.

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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:00 am

rdsrds2120 wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:Image

Have you people even seen this man? I mean look at him! Obvi the best president.


That's Lincoln, right?

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No. That is no 2nd rate beard monger. That is a man of true conviction. Truly the greatest of presidents, not merely american presidents but all presidents.

This man can be none other than James K Polk the best president.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:03 am

Neoteny wrote:Also, I demand an option for BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


Doesn't even need to finish a term huh? No need to wait for the results on his pet project? To see if the economy even gets turned around? Wouldn't you even like to wait and see if his promise to keep unemployment under 8% ever worked?

Of course not...
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:05 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Also, I demand an option for BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


Doesn't even need to finish a term huh? No need to wait for the results on his pet project? To see if the economy even gets turned around? Wouldn't you even like to wait and see if his promise to keep unemployment under 8% ever worked?

Of course not...


Doesn't matter cause Polk is the best.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby GreecePwns on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:09 am

My history teacher in high school called Andrew Jackson sexy, if that counts for anything.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:12 am

GreecePwns wrote:My history teacher in high school called Andrew Jackson sexy, if that counts for anything.


It doesn't because they were mistaken. Polk is also the sexiest president.
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