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by **jak111** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:21 pm

By the way, the only townie lynch I led on was Sully and for obvious reasons (although I didn't even get to use the final vote, Doom did). Also Clever's lynch I was the last to lynch him and only to prove to all of you since no one would listen to me that he was indeed town. So the only ones I led on AND voted for (both on the same case) were both mafia. NoS and Doom. The other two I gave Sully a chance and I didn't even hammer him. Clever I tried to convince the rest of the town otherwise.

Nice try New Guy, but Hippo if he's been keeping up with the game knows this be true. Good game scummies, but this game belongs to the townies.

by **jak111** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:23 pm

soundman wrote:
soundman wrote:Vote Count:

isaiah40
thehippo8
new guy1
DoomYoshi - Jak, Hippo, isaiah - (Lynch)
jak111

With 5 alive it takes 3 to make someone walk the plank.

That is a lynch. Scene will be up in an hour or two. I have to leave and don't have time to write it right now.

Ooops, sorry for triple post. But this is the LAST piece of evidence I wish to show my case in case Hippo has doubts about me... Who's the ONLY person who didn't vote Doom?

by **new guy1** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:59 pm

I said the vote caught up to me so that last piece of "evidence" is shit. Nos didnt require a case against him, as I remember he remained silent the whole damn time, I COULD HAVE LED A CASE ON HIM. I suppose its easy to call the mafia out WHEN YOU ARE ONE. I dont know why paperwork of the queen was included, but currently, I at least believe it makes more sense since a flavor cop (though mafia) confirmed it and that hippos role has something to do with the queen (I believe, would have to go check back). I did not put my vote up because of the slim chance that hippo was mafia, but seeing as you already gave him an out if he is Vote Jak, that way he has a choice. YOU are not confirmed, as you can be a mason, but who says your not the damn mafia, WHICH I POINTED OUT. If hippo is cleared in your eyes, why is there a 25% chance that hes mafia in your eyes? Broadening your horizons much? If you read my claim at all, and you reasearched WHAT I was, then you would see that it makes perfect sense.

As for "mistake 20" Im sorry that I have several games and so made a critical error. Thats exactly what I was talking about when I said I made many mistakes while you covered yours. I was not agreeing with doom, I simply believed he was town (already said this) and so was backing him. I confirmed the information because it further "cleared" his claim, which turned out to be what he said he was, just not for the town side.

As for enjoying fake claiming, I cant say I did cause I never had to fake claim. I just claimed and if you went back to Night 2 I believe, I visited Sully and he didnt die. Therefore, I can prove that I am not mafia because I never killed him. Now, where were you all of your nights? Apparently, you are basically a VT being a mason with no other role, therefore it makes one of the best mafia claims. I dont even get the part about only being able to clear players, so I wont even respond to it.

I believe I have effectively struck down your points while you have only given an excuse for why mine would not fit, and that is that you through doom under the bus, in which you responded that "You wouldnt throw both him and NoS under the bus", which is a load of crap, especially since NoS was innactive and so you could easily gain town points off of getting the godfather lynched and Doom was basically done for as well.

by **jak111** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:21 pm

I hate to tell you New Guy, you haven't thrown a single one of my points away. I call bs on your hider claim completely. Unlike you, mine and Hippo's claims can be and are confirmed. You are trying to use a tactic from the other game where your buddy was lynched because Betiko was wrong and he was insane until D3 which he never made it to. You're trying to use the excuse that people used on your mason buddy. Other than that you cannot even make a case against me without WIFOM. Doom was not done for until I pointed him out for a lot of things. Which, you and I both know I didn't have to do so. Just because you visited Sully N2 could just mean that you didn't make the kill that night, instead you used whatever role you have (Presumably mafia role blocker since Isaiah's N3 block is still not claimed).

Also YES, I am a vanilla Mason. I wish I had more power, but the only power I had was taken from me the very first night, and that was communicate with our doctor... For your information by the way, before the doctor died I was planning to work as a matyr and give out any information he gained so that if he finds a scum or he protected someone who's about to be lynched I could claim doctor and he'd claim vanilla mason. (which would give him at least another night to protect since the mafia would lynch the wrong person). But the mafia was lucky as hell night one.

Which reminds me, besides claiming Mason I never claimed what I was yet so I might as well do that since you'll find out when the game ends anyhow

I am the ship's CARPENTER. The reason I was mason with CMS is because we shared our... equipment. I really don't wish to know how he was planning on using those hammer and nails. But I can tell you for the first night he decided to protect me, although he was debating whether to protect me or Isaiah (since we pretty much agreed he could be town and would need some help). Though I guess in the end it didn't matter who he protected because someone obviously chose him out of EVERYONE (which if you go back is why I was on Nebuch's ass about the D1 incident. He's the one who 'believed CMS was mafia' so there's where my case on him came from).

Why do I clear yet not clear Hippo? You make me wonder sometimes New Guy. If you ARE town, and you say you hid behind hippo that would not let him be mafia. However, if you are mafia it would let him be town because obviously you wouldn't be the town hider. But what makes me question Hippo himself is just... what if the captain is an undercover navy soldier? etc? However if he was, that'd mean you'd be town New Guy, and since you "hid behind hippo" and didn't die, leads me to believe you wrong. Though I still wonder <.< If the jailer jailed Hippo if that'd protect you, however I doubt it.

As of now I am waiting for the captain to nail you, I know you're mafia New Guy, there's just NO other option, there's no way Hippo is mafia in my eyes besides what I mentioned (which would've made you dead) and I know I am town myself, so that leaves you. Although sound, how will the captain and a single carpenter sail this boat by themselves? I presume we are on a big ship

by **new guy1** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:35 pm

Just to say right now, I did ask, and I was told that if I were to hide behind mafia, I would not die. FYI, it is different from mod to mod, I know this because of another game. I dont see how you can say "Hippo is cleared in my mind" and give him a fourth of the pie making him possible mafia. In my eyes, that is not cleared, that is "well I can gather more dirt on NG, so Ill just say Hippo is cleared but I will lynch him if needed. Thank you for explaining your conversation, its elaborate, but it can not be confirmed, just like my role. Remind me again how your role can be confirmed. Flatter me, cause last I checked VT's cant do anything, and therefore the only way to prove your role is to have someone follow you and say you did nothing, which still cannot be confirmed because you can just not use your role that night. The only way your role could be confirmed is by lynch, as we dont know what you are till then. Also, FYI, there is another option and thats you. I believe your pirate role, but I dont see how it fits.I dont see why you would use the same tools. You use planks, saws, buckets, etc. The doctor uses needles and such. You may use the same tool closet, but thats about it. If anything, that makes me believe your fakeclaim less. Also the fact that you are so sure that Hippo will pick your case over mine, it makes me think you are overeager to end this game, to say the least. As for your case on Neb for disliking CMS or whatever, it just gives me a reason to think your trying to get another townie lynched off of an accident as to get a two for one deal. And your right, mafia was lucky as hell N1, which is why I believe you could have ratted on CMS.

by **thehippo8** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:53 pm

Well it's been a blast guys!

I'm impressed with everyone in this game, learned a thing or two. Had a laugh. Had a cry. Even saw fireworks!!

But the time has come to decide. And that's a hard thing to do.

I am impressed with the flattery from you both, and the weaving, ducking and diving is fantastic.

But there's only one choice to make and as I said last time, you gotta step up and make a decision.

Jak, throughout the game I have frankly found you scummy. More than once I've wanted to bring a case against you only to find that other cases have precedence.

NewGuy, you've been a loyal townie to your best ability, waving that flag andgetting grumpy for effect where necessary.

But NewGuy, you hid behind me and wanted me dead so for that ... vote newguy1

And something makes me wonder if I've done the right thing or not. But if I am wrong then my hat is off to you jak for yet again making the other case look worse than the case against you!!

=D>

by **new guy1** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:57 pm

When did I want you dead hippo? I HID behind you. That means if you die I die, I trusted that you were not scum and that you would not die that night. Have you seen a hider in any game? They do nothing. They are the opposite of a bodygaurd, if YOU die, I DIE. If they aim at me then NOTHING happens. Jesus.

by **new guy1** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:58 pm

I mean seriously, where the hell does it say I want you dead? Is that the only reason you freaking voted for me? Cause if it is that was a crap reason THAT WASNT THERE. I asked him why he had 25% on you if you were cleared, not "we should kill him". Please point whwere I said/did an action that said to kill you.

by **jak111** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:59 pm

My role is already confirmed New Guy. I've claimed Mason since Day 2. NO ONE has counter claimed me. I was hoping either you or someone else would TRY so I could strike you down and lynch more mafia, but however you and your mafia buddies aren't bright enough to either counter claim me to save your hides for a day and perhaps win, or kill me one of the nights you've had a chance to (N2, 3, 4, 5) Not a single night did you think of how much of a threat I am to you mafia. Which again is where you all failed at.

Of course I give Hippo a piece of the pie, it's called uncertainty like I'm sure he shares at least a bit toward me as well. However his role as well has not been counter claimed. Which without my head going into WIFOM mode would make him clear, but the WIFOM is where the 25% comes from. If I base it off logic only you remain New Guy.

Hmm, what kind of conversation did you have with Doom before we lynched his butt out of this game New Guy? Paper work still does not fit into my mind. Paper work could literally be anything, mostly it sounds like a distraction you two came up with to buy you time yesterday when I had a case on you, which trailed off to Doom because it was even more certain for him to be mafia. However, with the remaining people left, I highly believe you are the last one, Hippo is merely a WIFOM case in my mind, you however I have concrete evidence on.

The only cases you can make New Guy on either me or Hippo are based around 100% WIFOM. Where's a single solid piece of evidence you have on me? By the way <.< Who did you 'visit' last night New Guy? Hmm? You go on and on about how I can't prove anything without being lynched (Which would cause an end game in mafia favor) yet you don't give any proof, you even avoided answering questions on your role for a while until Isaiah called you OUT on it!

So please, enlighten me how I worked with Doom? Where I made a single 'slip' at? How my role is a fake claim? I can answer all three of those questions on you, but can you on me? Of course not, because you know your case is a last ditch effort for a mafia win and you know it! I can even go back and bring up some quotes if I must. Can you?

Fast posted, BRAVO Hippo. Now it is time for the grand finale where town bring home the win in YO HO!!!

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:59 pm

by **thehippo8** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:00 pm

new guy1 wrote:When did I want you dead hippo? I HID behind you. That means if you die I die, I trusted that you were not scum and that you would not die that night. Have you seen a hider in any game? They do nothing. They are the opposite of a bodygaurd, if YOU die, I DIE. If they aim at me then NOTHING happens. Jesus.

Oh!

Perhaps bugger?

Ummm ... errr ... ummm ???

FASTPOSTED x3

by **thehippo8** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:01 pm

[Weakly until the final result arrives] ... yay~

by **jak111** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:02 pm

Damn New Guy, chillax. It's a game. If I was mafia I think I would've done a GREAT job, however I am not, and you know I'm telling the truth because the game is over now boys. Final votes have been cast, we're in the dusk part of the game, waiting for Sound to show us if we did this right. So quit lying New Guy, it's all over.

by **new guy1** on Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:03 pm

Lynched for a shit reason that wasnt there. Great job guys, sorry I got pissed off, but there was no place where I said I wanted Hippo dead. And jak, dont tell me how bright we are, you are an ass for doing so. I actually had a very nice plan and thought out the kill on isiah and everything. You were the only one I could get dirt on and I knew it, therefore I killed isiah. Please dont be an ass with your cocky attitude, I hate people like that. Its only because Hippo didnt read into who he was lynching that I got lynched, and if you had read you would know that. Good game guys, sorry I couldnt pull it out mafia, and sorry Im not leaving you on a cliff hanger, not in the mood to do so...

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