Battle of the Bulge - CLOSED

[everywhere116]

So someone keep a note of this somewhere if I die tonight (100% likely if we kill of jg).

Are you saying you are more likely to be nightkilled if the claimed survivor gets lynched? Conversely, by not lynching the claimed survivor we are less likely to lose our claimed doctor?

Care to explain why?

Finally, something I can reply to without bias accusations or skimming.

For the first part, I honestly forgot the BW on Doom. If I live through tonight I'll go back and check.

What I mean by 100% if we lynch JG. I mentioned earlier that I have another power. If we kill Hitler within 3 days of me being alive as well, we go through a night unharmed. (Which / tried to make some point about it being potentially good for mafia too ) So if we lynch JG, a survivor who is not Hitler, then I'm dead. If we lynch somebody else, and they turn Hitler I get another day and no one dies tonight But of course, who'd want to try for that, when we can just lynch the Survivor now and let the Doc die tonight.. Those two are annoying anyhow

Hopefully that explains your question Rodion. You're less complex to answer to and at least you read what I'm saying -.-.

This still doesn't answer the question. By saying that there is a 100% chance tat you'll die if jg is lynched, you're implying that it isn't if jg lives to see tonight. Why? Do you expect the scum to kill jg?

Obviously . We dont discuss certain games, we just discuss mafia in general 99% of the time... unless one of us is dead, then the person thats alive discusses their plans with the dead sucker

It's still questionable unless you both are dead. The dead are not allowed to influence the game in any way, be it night actions, game related posts, etc. Bouncing plans off a dead person is still going to get their feedback and will still influence you, a live player, and your actions.

[pmchugh]

Ach lay off them. I talk, or at least used to, to fir, nag and frenchie about games that they are not alive in. I'm sure that they are not giving each other tactical advice.

[Leehar]

Sheesh, sorry for not commenting in seeming ages! Takes ages to catch up when you fall behind, specially when you want to do it all at once, otherwise you lose the plot even more
I see I'm still voting everywhere, so Unvote, tho I'm still somewhat concerned about his pressure of jak and jg shortly after chuck tried raising that as well.
Hadn't we all dredged up everything that was possible on those 2 a fortnight ago? Heck, if that's the road we were gonna take, then why the need for this extended deadline?
So you, I'm concerned about all the guys that have been wanting to stall the game by bringing up those things again, so, chuck, everywhere and / remain a worry (the latter 2 because it seems they've been mostly submarining only to pop up to go after the doc)
I don't agree with pmc on rodion being similar, and I'm liking Rod's tackling of chuck because even if the guys supposedly a newb, he's also giving me some discomfiting vibes.

Where is gimli btw, I remember the hoo hah about saf voting him, did he ever get his role pm? Because ghostly's also still asking for a replacement? Saf's vote counted tho, so I assume gimli does need to check in?

[jgordon1111]

Sheesh, sorry for not commenting in seeming ages! Takes ages to catch up when you fall behind, specially when you want to do it all at once, otherwise you lose the plot even more
I see I'm still voting everywhere, so Unvote, tho I'm still somewhat concerned about his pressure of jak and jg shortly after chuck tried raising that as well.
Hadn't we all dredged up everything that was possible on those 2 a fortnight ago? Heck, if that's the road we were gonna take, then why the need for this extended deadline?
So you, I'm concerned about all the guys that have been wanting to stall the game by bringing up those things again, so, chuck, everywhere and / remain a worry (the latter 2 because it seems they've been mostly submarining only to pop up to go after the doc)
I don't agree with pmc on rodion being similar, and I'm liking Rod's tackling of chuck because even if the guys supposedly a newb, he's also giving me some discomfiting vibes.

Where is gimli btw, I remember the hoo hah about saf voting him, did he ever get his role pm? Because ghostly's also still asking for a replacement? Saf's vote counted tho, so I assume gimli does need to check in?

Correct leehar there is some significant stalling going on,and if something gets going on someone else for pressure,the game keeps being redirected back down the road to the same stuff that has been covered over and over again. There are a few that it seems if they cant rush the lynch want to at least stall for the deadline.

Other than that everything is perfect lol.

[jak111]

So someone keep a note of this somewhere if I die tonight (100% likely if we kill of jg).

Are you saying you are more likely to be nightkilled if the claimed survivor gets lynched? Conversely, by not lynching the claimed survivor we are less likely to lose our claimed doctor?

Care to explain why?

Finally, something I can reply to without bias accusations or skimming.

For the first part, I honestly forgot the BW on Doom. If I live through tonight I'll go back and check.

What I mean by 100% if we lynch JG. I mentioned earlier that I have another power. If we kill Hitler within 3 days of me being alive as well, we go through a night unharmed. (Which / tried to make some point about it being potentially good for mafia too ) So if we lynch JG, a survivor who is not Hitler, then I'm dead. If we lynch somebody else, and they turn Hitler I get another day and no one dies tonight But of course, who'd want to try for that, when we can just lynch the Survivor now and let the Doc die tonight.. Those two are annoying anyhow

Hopefully that explains your question Rodion. You're less complex to answer to and at least you read what I'm saying -.-.

This still doesn't answer the question. By saying that there is a 100% chance tat you'll die if jg is lynched, you're implying that it isn't if jg lives to see tonight. Why? Do you expect the scum to kill jg?

Obviously . We dont discuss certain games, we just discuss mafia in general 99% of the time... unless one of us is dead, then the person thats alive discusses their plans with the dead sucker

It's still questionable unless you both are dead. The dead are not allowed to influence the game in any way, be it night actions, game related posts, etc. Bouncing plans off a dead person is still going to get their feedback and will still influence you, a live player, and your actions.

Please Everywhere, save a lot of people a lot of grief of trying to get it through your thick skull, and reread my entire post you JUST quoted... FOS for skimming the post you just quoted Everywhere, there's no way it's a noob error, you've been playing for seems for a while now.

[jak111]

I don't know how pmc thinks you're acting like town.

I'm sort of wondering how anyone believes you're acting like town. Seriously, the cases on me and JG are cold until tomorrow, so why bother? There's nothing more to be added.

ask and ye shall receive...

So I don't think anyone picked up except one or two that I was even so much as soft claiming until I said I was. So this argument can be dropped, you all chose to pressure me into it, and I wouldn't have even fully claimed if Doom didn't say a single word about it. If you're looking for more to the story there is none, I tried teeth and nails to keep myself hidden but nope, you all started compiling 'cases' and FOS's out of thin air. What did you expect the outcome to be? "Oh yea, I'm VT" <.< Mind you that would've been a smarter thing to do, but of course then it'd be "Let's lynch a VT, they're useless" And if I claimed after that it'd be "Why are you switching your claim? Trying to seem important?"

you were at 3 votes so there wasn't that much pressure even if there were a couple of FOS's. They aren't a big deal until they turn into votes

perhaps leading the league in posts per day wasn't the best way to keep yourself hidden.

not necessarily true. I don't think you can say VT = auto lynch. We have seen with JGordon that many players value activity and you have been very active

fastposted by jak

I can put the doc stuff on the back-burner for now but I intend to re-visit it day 2

As for this, you, Clever, Chap, Everywhere, and / have me confused? You're working together some secret alliance? Perhaps one or two town in between? The four of you are working on cases against a claimed doc when the case is freezing cold and you want more?
First Chuck wants to bring it back up, then / makes a post continuing it, and Chap, Everywhere and Clever follow like sheep.

Though I can make this bet since I'm trying to get good at sniping mafia in D1's and D2's. Out of these 5 I can promise one or two of them are mafia

[jgordon1111]

I am betting on two of them, and planning on at the end of the game laughing and giving out the obvious I told you so.

But only laughing at those that let themselves be blindly lead.

[/]

PMC suggests top three list

Chapcrap's list
Jak's list
Doom's lazy $#$@ bandwaggon
/'s list
PMC's list
thechuck's list
Everywhere's list
Doom's actual list
rodion's list

Bad listless people
1. jgordon
2. new guy1
3. CLEVER
4. SG7
6. Dazza
7. Safariguy
9. Crazymilkshake5 replaced by gimli1990
10. Ragian
12. SPARTACUS1974
13. Leehar

Nomination Tally

safari: 6 nominations; Chap, jak, /, pmc, doom, rodion
jgordon: 5 Nominations; Chap, /, chuck, every, rodion
newguy: 5 nominations; Chap, /, chuck, every, doom
Chap: 4 nominations; Jak, pmc, doom, rodion
Doom: 3 nominations; Jak, pmc, chuck
everywhere: 2 nominations; /, doom
jak: 2 nominations; chuck, every
pmc: 2 nominations; Chap, chuck

Safari tops off with six, despite for some reason not having a single vote on him. A whole bunch of people have no lists so far, ok we have like 5 days left, this was the last count.
viewtopic.php?f=213&t=165179&start=825#p3716725
what now?

[Leehar]

Ok, I'll turn my last post into a list format, sheesh >_>

/
everywhere
chuck

Happy?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I don't know how pmc thinks you're acting like town.

I'm sort of wondering how anyone believes you're acting like town. Seriously, the cases on me and JG are cold until tomorrow, so why bother? There's nothing more to be added.

ask and ye shall receive...

So I don't think anyone picked up except one or two that I was even so much as soft claiming until I said I was. So this argument can be dropped, you all chose to pressure me into it, and I wouldn't have even fully claimed if Doom didn't say a single word about it. If you're looking for more to the story there is none, I tried teeth and nails to keep myself hidden but nope, you all started compiling 'cases' and FOS's out of thin air. What did you expect the outcome to be? "Oh yea, I'm VT" <.< Mind you that would've been a smarter thing to do, but of course then it'd be "Let's lynch a VT, they're useless" And if I claimed after that it'd be "Why are you switching your claim? Trying to seem important?"

you were at 3 votes so there wasn't that much pressure even if there were a couple of FOS's. They aren't a big deal until they turn into votes

perhaps leading the league in posts per day wasn't the best way to keep yourself hidden.

not necessarily true. I don't think you can say VT = auto lynch. We have seen with JGordon that many players value activity and you have been very active

fastposted by jak

I can put the doc stuff on the back-burner for now but I intend to re-visit it day 2

As for this, you, Clever, Chap, Everywhere, and / have me confused? You're working together some secret alliance? Perhaps one or two town in between? The four of you are working on cases against a claimed doc when the case is freezing cold and you want more?
First Chuck wants to bring it back up, then / makes a post continuing it, and Chap, Everywhere and Clever follow like sheep.

Though I can make this bet since I'm trying to get good at sniping mafia in D1's and D2's. Out of these 5 I can promise one or two of them are mafia

quick comment. where did i say i wanted to get rid of the doc? i dont believe i did?

[jgordon1111]

PMC suggests top three list

Chapcrap's list
Jak's list
Doom's lazy $#$@ bandwaggon
/'s list
PMC's list
thechuck's list
Everywhere's list
Doom's actual list
rodion's list

Bad listless people
1. jgordon
2. new guy1
3. CLEVER
4. SG7
6. Dazza
7. Safariguy
9. Crazymilkshake5 replaced by gimli1990
10. Ragian
12. SPARTACUS1974
13. Leehar

Nomination Tally

safari: 6 nominations; Chap, jak, /, pmc, doom, rodion
jgordon: 5 Nominations; Chap, /, chuck, every, rodion
newguy: 5 nominations; Chap, /, chuck, every, doom
Chap: 4 nominations; Jak, pmc, doom, rodion
Doom: 3 nominations; Jak, pmc, chuck
everywhere: 2 nominations; /, doom
jak: 2 nominations; chuck, every
pmc: 2 nominations; Chap, chuck

Safari tops off with six, despite for some reason not having a single vote on him. A whole bunch of people have no lists so far, ok we have like 5 days left, this was the last count.
viewtopic.php?f=213&t=165179&start=825#p3716725
what now?

Uh excuse me / you are normally better than this, I uhmm do have a list

[jak111]

quick comment. where did i say i wanted to get rid of the doc? i dont believe i did?

Quick question, why are you skimming by assuming that I said you said that you wanted to get rid of the doc? Reread.

[/]

Out of these 5 I can promise one or two of them are mafia

Statistically speaking, if only one of us is mafia out of five, that's probably better than the mafia/town ratio for the whole game, heck, lynch the godfather an there's going to be one or two scum on the wagon, so that doesn't really narrow things down too much.

Uh excuse me / you are normally better than this, I uhmm do have a list

Okay, so I just went through your last 30 posts with advanced search, twice, I'll bite, page number?

[jgordon1111]

page 27 second post from the bottom /

and at this point would maybe only change one person.












fast posted see above post lol

[pmchugh]

@jak, I sure hope you can pick one scum outta 5, since the town-mafia ratio is probably lower than this

@/ I really wish you hadn't listed the overall votes, you just made it easier for scum to pick who to put in their lists.

@ mod can we get a prod on gimli?

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