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Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby Catarah on Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:08 pm

[i'm not completely sure if this is the right place to discuss this, as there might be a subforum or so which i have missed. if so, please tell me!]

so, we've got a great new gameoption today - Trench Warfare - as described here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=168663

my only question here is basically, will we allow this option in clanwars? now obviously in simple clanwars it will be up to the clans themselves, but i supose it's never too early to discuss what should happen in things like the clan league and the conquer cup.


to start off with my own opinion - i'm a big fan of the option, and i am certainly in favor of it being allowed in clangames, as it makes the game becomes very strategic with this setting. on the other hand, i can imagine with the option being so different from what we're used to, that people wouldn't want to play a clanwar with one side bringing in 20 trench wars or something.

so, discuss, what place should trench warfare have within the Clanwars?
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby chapcrap on Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:16 pm

I'm in favor of it being worked in to wars.

However, as it wasn't an option when terms were disclosed for CL4, CC3, etc, it probably shouldn't be used in them.
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby jj3044 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:48 pm

i don't mind the setting if it is negotiated... but I really can't see it ever being allowed in the multi-clan tournies like CL and the CC... simply because it is a setting that could take FOREVER for a game to finish, and it would slow down the entire tournament. You could of course use round limits... but a team winning with a round limit is not necessarily the team that WOULD win the game without a round limit, so I'm not a huge fan of that either.

As for the current CL and CC tournies, I absolutely do not think the new setting should be allowed... I'm fairly sure the organizers would concur.
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby redhawk92 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:09 pm

it will take way to long. i am willing to play it (speaking as a player not a clan). :D
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby Catarah on Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:09 pm

i'm not sure about it taking forever to finish. in an 8 player free for all i'm quite sure it'll take forever, but in a quads or tripples, i'm more worried that the game is decided in the first 3 turns, then the other way around.

however, i suppose i'll wait with judging until i played a few trips and quads with trenches :)
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby skillfusniper33 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:00 am

I think they should be put into the clan wars, but probably not for any current leagues. But we also might want to have it be like the unlimited forts in CL4, which are limited to 2 per home set, and only in quads/triples. And as for the current tournaments, I would say keep it out of the games for sure, since it is extremely new, and their may be some bugs that might need tweaking.

It will bring a lot more strategy to the game itself, but I do believe it would take a bit longer to finish than normal, but you should be able to actually see the clan who has a better strategy evolve.
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby chemefreak on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:00 pm

Like most settings it will not be forbidden in wars. However, we will have to make sure that it is fairly negotiated between the clans.
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby redhawk92 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:09 pm

so both have to agree?
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby chemefreak on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:52 pm

kylegraves1 wrote:so both have to agree?


Sort of. Both have to agree and the CDs have to think that they know what they are doing. For instance, an experienced clan decides to take on a new clan. The new clan, just excited to have a challenge, agrees to pretty much anything. The CDs at that point may decline to issue privs since the war was not "fairly negotiated".
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby uckuki on Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:07 pm

FOED is considering a trench challenge, on small maps only. could be dubs and trips, something like that. nothing medium size and up. we are still trying out the setting, to figure it out, get comfie. but we do plan to issue a trench challenge in a month or two.

if anyone is interested in discussing options/terms pm me.
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby SaviorShot on Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:55 pm

IM sure it will be worked into clan wars in the future with a limit on how many u can use a round. I'm 4 it
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby niMic on Thu May 03, 2012 10:23 am

I am playing a quads chained escalating trench on World 2.1

Stupid game.
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby Chuuuuck on Thu May 03, 2012 10:39 am

I think it is a very strategic setting. Clan wars should allow everything that adds strategy, however, I am worried about the timeline for CC. Everyone would have to understand events may take longer, or agree to send them in the early rounds or something. I want to play the games with all strategic settings possible, but cleanup on trench games can take a while .
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby Leehar on Thu May 03, 2012 11:12 am

Again, Use Round Limits?...
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Re: Trench Warfare in clanwars

Postby lascheves on Thu May 31, 2012 6:24 pm

Leehar wrote:Again, Use Round Limits?...

Just to have certain, round limits in team game defaults to UNIQUE PLAYER with most troops, not TEAM with most troops, correct? I know this is posted in elsewhere. Sorry for ask again.
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