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Re: Magyarország [30/4] Version 8 PG 1/3

Postby koontz1973 on Tue May 01, 2012 10:32 pm

No problem Jatekos, about the " ő ", it is on the map, but the size of letter and font type does not display it well. Will change the font a little later down the road. This font is purely there for game play and mock up design.
Hungary is not on next update. Just kept Magyarország as the title.
Mini map is updated for the next update as well. Just wanted to be sure of the colour before changing the little bits.

Will post the new image later today as back to work I go. :(

Over the weekend, I will post a version with different fonts. Come and look at let me know what you like. O:)
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Re: Magyarország [30/4] V8 PG 1/3 Text options Pg 4

Postby koontz1973 on Wed May 02, 2012 10:36 am

Here are some options for the territ font. Which one is good/bad. Happy to use any of them.

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Re: Magyarország [30/4] V8 PG 1/3 Text options Pg 4

Postby nolefan5311 on Wed May 02, 2012 12:13 pm

I prefer the Fejer font.
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Re: Magyarország [30/4] V8 PG 1/3 Text options Pg 4

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu May 03, 2012 7:55 pm

I agree, Fejér is the best of those, given the map style, but I'm satisfied with the current font, myself.

Anywho, I know I'm coming in a bit late, but I thought I'd pop in with a couple things:
  • "Czechoslovakia Republic" should be "Czechoslovak Republic" or "The Republic of Czechoslovakia".
  • The small bonus areas, Poland, Austria, Italy - given the focus of the map (Hungary and its re-expansion), these should be valued at less than normal, so they don't steal the spotlight in gameplay. Italy could easily be reduced to zero, Poland could go either zero or +1, and Austria could go to +1.
  • On a similar note, the gameplay framework set up is more gimmicky than anything, as none of those 'consolidated' "Hungary and..." bonuses are going to come into play until someone has the game all wrapped up anyway. I wonder if you could rework it a bit to make it less gimmicky and more foundational as a strategy. For example, you could have it so that you need Budapest and X amount of Hungarian territories to rack up bonuses from the regions outside of Hungary. Something to seriously think about, IMO.
  • Lastly, I think Hungary needs a more well-defined color, or a well-defined font to separate it more from the other bonus regions, as I think they are too similar to bonus areas like Austria and Romania.
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Re: Magyarország [30/4] V8 PG 1/3 Text options Pg 4

Postby koontz1973 on Thu May 03, 2012 10:24 pm

Good ideas Sully, the only one that I will think may not work are the zero bonuses. What about one having the consolidated bonus to be hold a region of Hungary and the x amount of territs in a country.
So hold east Hungary and 5 Romania territs for +8
Had Czechoslovak Republic but was told it was wrong. I thought it was right so will bung it back in.
Will have a think about colours.
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Re: Magyarország [30/4] V8 PG 1/3 Text options Pg 4

Postby koontz1973 on Fri May 04, 2012 1:30 am

Been thinking about the consolidated bonuses for a while and Sully prompted me to post.
Lots has changed (to much to post and remember).
Hope you like them.
The text that I liked (Fejer) did not work well in the small map version so have gone with this one.
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Re: Magyarország [4/5] V9 PG 1/4

Postby Jatekos on Fri May 04, 2012 6:09 pm

Well done so far.

A few more minor suggestions:
- We refer to the regions of Hungary as Dunántúl, Duna-Tisza köze, Tiszántúl. "Hungary" is not part of these region names, it is not necessary to indicate it as e.g. "Dunántúl Hungary" on the legend. Especially that now only Hungary and 2 regions of Poland have green background. If you still think that there is a need for the word "Hungary" on this part of the legend, then you could update the title from Safe Land Bonus to Safe Land Bonus in Hungary, or something similar.
- On a related note, I think it would make sense if Poland had a different colour, other than green.
- I could be mistaken, but I think that if you refer to more than one bonus on the legend, then you would need the plural form (bonuses). If you implement my first suggestion above then you will have more space for the longer names.
- One of the Hungarian regions is not a county like the rest, but a city: I would suggest to replace Debrecen with another name.
Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg and Hajdú-Bihar more or less lay on the indicated area (you could shorten the first, if needed).
http://www.mfa.gov.ua/hungary/hun/2458.htm
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Re: Magyarország [4/5] V9 PG 1/4

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri May 04, 2012 6:13 pm

I'm liking this map, but I have one teeny suggestion: In the story where it says Hungarian nation, you should say Kingdom of Hungary as it was the political state of the Kingdom of Hungary ( the state) which was partitioned whereas the people (the nation) remained unbroken up, though those living in the conquered areas of the Kingdom likely had to return to the new state of Hungary.
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Re: Magyarország [4/5] V9 PG 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Fri May 04, 2012 11:30 pm

Jatekos, changed names but am gong to keep the Hungary in the legend. This should make it easier for the players from outside the borders to see where we are. :roll: Changed Poland to a blue, but also tweaked the other colours as they where not colour blind friendly. Better to get it done know than later. ;)

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Re: Magyarország [4/5] V9 PG 1/4

Postby Jatekos on Sun May 06, 2012 7:08 am

koontz1973 wrote:Jatekos, changed names but am gong to keep the Hungary in the legend. This should make it easier for the players from outside the borders to see where we are. :roll:

Thanks Koontz for updating Debrecen.

Regarding the other name changes I am not sure if I was clear enough. I do not want to delete all references of "Hungary" from the legend. I was only suggesting to refer to Tiszántúl, Dunántúl and Duna-Tisza köze instead of Tiszántúl Hungary, Dunántúl Hungary and Duna-Tisza köze Hungary, as their location is pretty self-explanatory from the legend anyway, because Hungary is the only green country now. I do not think that only native Hungarians could identify the location of e.g. "Tiszántúl" if they spent 2 seconds looking at the legend.

Also, Dunántúl, Duna-Tisza köze and Tiszántúl literally mean the area West of the Danube, the area between the Danube and the Tisza and the East of Tisza, respectively. I understand that you want to make it clear that these 3 zones belong to Hungary, but creating zone names that are half Hungarian - half English is quite strange. Are you sure that the colouring is not enough? How about adding "Hungary" to the title of this part of the legend e.g. "Saved Land Bonus (Hungary)" or "Saved Land Bonus in Hungary", if necessary?
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Re: Magyarország [5/5] V9.1 PG 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Sun May 06, 2012 8:02 am

Will have a chat with one of the game play mods about this one. I want it in to make it clear what it is. I know it is a tad redundant and if they say it can come out, out it will come.

How are the other two names you picked up on (Gyor and Veroce)?
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Re: Magyarország [5/5] V9.1 PG 1/4

Postby Jatekos on Sun May 06, 2012 10:29 am

Győr and Verőce are fine now.
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Re: Magyarország [5/5] V9.1 PG 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Sun May 06, 2012 10:54 am

Superb. Onwards and upwards from now on then.
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Re: Magyarország [5/5] V9.1 PG 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Mon May 07, 2012 6:15 am

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Sorted out the bonuses.
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Re: Magyarország [7/5] V9.2 PG 1/4

Postby isaiah40 on Mon May 07, 2012 9:48 am

I think this is ready to be moved!
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