[Official revamp] North America

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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:52 pm

natty dread wrote:If you're worried about the territories matching, don't, I made the XML by taking the current XML and just editing the territory names and coordinates... so the territories are in the same order, no worries there.

If there's another reason for needing the list just let me know and I'll write it up...

We need the list so we can warn players in all ongoing games of the changes so they won't be going WT*!
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Re: thanks for the stamp!

Postby Gilligan on Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:37 pm

natty dread wrote:ugh, that seems like a lot of work... I wonder if I can do this with grep :-k


Seems easy enough...

South Greenland -> Greenland
North Greenland -> Iqaluit
Canadian Shield -> Kenora
New England -> New York
New York -> Pennsylvania
Louisiana -> Mississippi
Dominican Republic -> Hispaniola
Haiti -> East Cuba
Cuba -> West Cuba
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Re: thanks for the stamp!

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:39 pm

Gilligan wrote:
natty dread wrote:ugh, that seems like a lot of work... I wonder if I can do this with grep :-k


Seems easy enough...

South Greenland -> Greenland
North Greenland -> Iqaluit
Canadian Shield -> Kenora
New England -> New York
New York -> Pennsylvania
Louisiana -> Mississippi
Dominican Republic -> Hispaniola
Haiti -> East Cuba
Cuba -> West Cuba
Belize -> Guatemala
Nicaragua -> Honduras


Thanks Gilligan, now if we can get this list in the OP, then people can find it easier!!
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby natty dread on Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:45 am

done :)
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby Nola_Lifer on Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:12 pm

How did we lose Louisiana on this one? Louisiana Purchase was the whole reason half of the U.S. is the U.S.
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Re: thanks for the stamp!

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:23 am

Nola_Lifer wrote:How did we lose Louisiana on this one? Louisiana Purchase was the whole reason half of the U.S. is the U.S.

Gilligan wrote:
natty dread wrote:ugh, that seems like a lot of work... I wonder if I can do this with grep :-k


Seems easy enough...

South Greenland -> Greenland
North Greenland -> Iqaluit
Canadian Shield -> Kenora
New England -> New York
New York -> Pennsylvania
Louisiana -> Mississippi
Dominican Republic -> Hispaniola
Haiti -> East Cuba
Cuba -> West Cuba
Belize -> Guatemala
Nicaragua -> Honduras


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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby Gilligan on Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:28 am

I believe he is saying that Louisiana should be named on the map.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:08 pm

Louisiana is on the wrong side of the river.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby RjBeals on Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:33 pm

What a badass looking map! Congrats again Nat (If I haven't said so yet)
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:23 am

Thanks.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby Pedronicus on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:03 am

The original map doesn't need a re vamp. Why the hell are you lot fucking around with someone else's original hard work and effort?

When North America first came out, it was one of the best maps ever released.

If I ever had the slightest chance of considering making a map, this sort of re vamp shit makes my mind up that It's not worth doing, because 3 or 4 years down the line some cartography brown nosing prick and his mates give it the go ahead to be re drawn. f*ck that shit and all of you idiots currently massaging Natty's ego that this project is nothing but positive.

I'm here to tell you that it's not positive. It's negative.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby Gilligan on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:08 am

Pedronicus wrote:The original map doesn't need a re vamp. Why the hell are you lot fucking around with someone else's original hard work and effort?

When North America first came out, it was one of the best maps ever released.

If I ever had the slightest chance of considering making a map, this sort of re vamp shit makes my mind up that It's not worth doing, because 3 or 4 years down the line some cartography brown nosing prick and his mates give it the go ahead to be re drawn. f*ck that shit and all of you idiots currently massaging Natty's ego that this project is nothing but positive.

I'm here to tell you that it's not positive. It's negative.


The original mapmaker gave permission for the revamp.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby Pedronicus on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:05 am

The original mapmaker probably lost the will to live, getting the original map, through the foundry process in the first place.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:34 am

Pedronicus wrote:The original mapmaker probably lost the will to live, getting the original map, through the foundry process in the first place.

North America was a speed demon through the original Foundry Process...mostly because there wasn't yet a Foundry Process in the early of 2006 when it was developed. ;)


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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:43 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:The original mapmaker probably lost the will to live, getting the original map, through the foundry process in the first place.

North America was a speed demon through the original Foundry Process...mostly because there wasn't yet a Foundry Process in the early of 2006 when it was developed. ;)


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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:40 pm

Pedronicus wrote:The original map doesn't need a re vamp. Why the hell are you lot fucking around with someone else's original hard work and effort?

When North America first came out, it was one of the best maps ever released.


Damn communist hippie, get out of here with your crazy ideas about peace and love...

The mapmaking process is strictly a "survival of the fittest" thing. If your map doesn't compare with the rest, then it's cut down and a better replacement will feed on it's corpse.

Or at least, that's the way it used to be before the admins started their Secret Foundry that apparently gets priority over us regular proletarian mapmakers... so I guess the current foundry model looks a bit more like crony capitalism, which is exactly why I retired from mapmaking. I can't work in an environment where shitheads who know nothing about mapmaking get priority over some map project, just because they happen to be admin's friends... and then they don't even have to follow the same rules as the rest of the mapmakers, they get Special Treatment. It's disgusting really.

But I digress. Man, this place just gets my blood pressure up, every time I come here I remember how the admin fucked me over and it just pisses me off every time... so please get this map up so I can get on with my life and say goodbye to the foundry... I don't want to come here anymore.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:39 am

For now I've warned the players about the name changes. The files have been sent to lackattack. ;)
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby MGSteve on Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:53 am

Natty,

Thought I was at the end til I saw there were 4 more pages. Don't think I'll read all that.... very sleepy. Just wanna say that I really like the new look. MUCH, much better than the original, which wasn't bad itself. Love the icons and the whole works. Can't wait to play on it and my thanks to thenobodies80 for posting a link to this thread in my current game. I had no idea this was in the works.

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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 am

Lookin' forward to this. I'm definitely go play NA a bit more now.


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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:44 pm

The map is now live!

Going to leave this thread stickied for a bit, just to ensure everything is in the right place and there are no problems with the images. ;)

I'll post the headline etc as soon as I'm at home
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:21 pm

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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby Hatchman on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:07 pm

Pretty nice update, but what's with the mountains and glaciers? Those parts look bush league. Like blobs of poop someone said. But I love the Mountie etc
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby natty dread on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:00 am

I think they're fine. But you're entitled to your opinion of course.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby Crazyirishman on Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:34 pm

The new look is nicer, but I prefer the old clunky version of the map as it is more visually appealing to me.
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Re: [Official revamp] North America

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:49 pm

I have received feedback indicating that "French Canada" is offensive to some Canadians.

I'm therefore proposing changing the bonus area name to Atlantic Canada.

If anyone objects, speak now etc.
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