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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [4.6.12] V6-P3

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:08 am

koontz1973 wrote:
Just thought I would pop in and see. Here is a short list for you to look at but I am sure you already know these.
This is the area that I thought was great and needed copying all around.
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Yes, and i had already changed that in the Outer Khamovniki territory and asked for feedback a couple of posts back.


Still waiting for a reply from koontz1973 on this one :!:
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [4.6.12] V6-P3

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:15 am

Sounds like you got a little drunk for the end of exams! LOL. Congrats on being finished with them though.

I had a glass of organic wine, but since i am now a diabetic, my party drinking days are well over, so drunk...no...i didn't think i gave that impression or is that what you do for end of exams? Exams finished...well no...not quite...only for two weeks before i have two week block subject to do and then that exam, then three weeks after that start study period 2. :(
i'll look at your other stuff in the morning :)
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [4.6.12] V6-P3

Postby nolefan5311 on Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:56 am

cairnswk wrote:
Sounds like you got a little drunk for the end of exams! LOL. Congrats on being finished with them though.

I had a glass of organic wine, but since i am now a diabetic, my party drinking days are well over, so drunk...no...i didn't think i gave that impression or is that what you do for end of exams? Exams finished...well no...not quite...only for two weeks before i have two week block subject to do and then that exam, then three weeks after that start study period 2. :(
i'll look at your other stuff in the morning :)


Yes, that is what we did when the semester was over LOL. I know you Aussie's can drink with the best of them, so I thought maybe that was something done down under too :D. Didn't mean offense.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [4.6.12] V6-P3

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:58 am

nolefan5311 wrote:...
Yes, that is what we did when the semester was over LOL. I know you Aussie's can drink with the best of them, so I thought maybe that was something done down under too :D. Didn't mean offense.

Oh none taken :)
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [4.6.12] V6-P3

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:31 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:
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nolefan5311 wrote:Adding another neutral would solve the problem with the +3, but that's a lot of starting neutrals and could prohibit movement across the top of the map.

i agree, it prohibit movement


How do you want to go about changing this?

I could split Perevo into two to make another 4.

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nolefan5311 wrote:Also, now that you've added the connection from Khamovniki to Ochakovo, I think you can move the starting neutral to Gagarinski.

yes, that's a good idea, to leave Khamovniki with an army since he's got to conquer each side of him to get his bonus...he'll that fortification.


I'm still a little stumped on how to solve this problem. I think taking the neutral away from Khamovniki outer is a good idea, but you would need to place that neutral on Khamovniki inner, right?

yes, but i'm not in favour of that because it places too many neutrals in the inner circle.

...And I was more suggesting that the neutral be moved from Akademicheskiy to Gagarinksky,

that can be done


but there's still an issue of the being a pretty bad bottleneck down there. Perhaps you can drag Ochakovo all the way along the river so that it borders Yakamanka?

Last line...no. there is already cramped space down there and that would only add to doubt questions.
What about an impassable like the gold band...
jewellry uses small clasp-like hands to hold stones onto a base...the impassable could be something like the gold-band...which also means i could place an imassable between Pechatniki and Negatzinskiy Zaton...the two at the top would be there but not used as impassables.
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cairnswk wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:Also, the border between K.I., and Kitaygorod is a little unclear.
Oh! i didn't think so, it simply means A.I. and P.I. don't border Kitaygorod.


Oops. I meant the other K.I. (Krasnoselskoe inner). But that is going to need to be changed on the map, lol...can't have two K.I.'s. If you mean for it to border Kitaygorod, I think you can just open the point of it up a little bit.

Oh OK, i can fix that. didn't even see it. :oops:
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [4.6.12] V6-P3

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:57 pm

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:47 pm

Ok, I reran the bonus spreadsheets and a couple of potential issues

The +2 in the 2 region bonus in the SW corner...adding that impassable between Gagarinsky and Ochakovo put the suggested decimal bonus down to 1.5, so 2 is a too high. So, I think you need to either remove that impassable (which messes with the whole 4 corner thing you have going on), or add an extra connection, maybe from Khamovniki to Gagarinsky. Also, if you look, Gagarinski is only attackable from one region, Akademichskiy, which starts as a neutral. That takes that territory out of play from the very beginning.

Additionally, the +2 for the 4 region bonus is also too high as the spreadsheet indicates this should be 1.75. Adding a bridge between Khoroshevo Mnevniki to FIlevskiy Park (which would allow you to make that +3 a +4, since it's 5 regions).

The only other issue I see is that both Khamovniki and Presnensoe border a ton of regions, and both start neutral. I think perhaps inversing the alternation of the neutrals across the inner/outer rings would be very beneficial (except for Zhamoskvorechye and Z.I.).

What do you think cairns?
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby tokle on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:03 pm

Looks interesting, but I have a request;
The title; could you write it out properly, in Cyrillic?
Since it's already in Russian, and sort of semi-cyrillic letters, it wouldn't take much to it properly.
To those of us who understand it, it just looks horrible like that.
And to those of us who don't understand it, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway, would it?

I understand the faux-cyrillic you are doing at the bottom, though, but not in the title line.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:20 pm

tokle wrote:Looks interesting, but I have a request;
The title; could you write it out properly, in Cyrillic?
Since it's already in Russian, and sort of semi-cyrillic letters, it wouldn't take much to it properly.
To those of us who understand it, it just looks horrible like that.
And to those of us who don't understand it, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway, would it?

I understand the faux-cyrillic you are doing at the bottom, though, but not in the title line.


You want this...tokle?
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:34 pm

Also, cairns, can you post in the thread or PM me what the continent names should be for the XML? As is, I have no idea, lol.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:36 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:Also, cairns, can you post in the thread or PM me what the continent names should be for the XML? As is, I have no idea, lol.

Sure, but when the gameplay is sorted out, as we are still sorting continents and impassables. :)
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby tokle on Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:03 pm

cairnswk wrote:
tokle wrote:Looks interesting, but I have a request;
The title; could you write it out properly, in Cyrillic?
Since it's already in Russian, and sort of semi-cyrillic letters, it wouldn't take much to it properly.
To those of us who understand it, it just looks horrible like that.
And to those of us who don't understand it, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway, would it?

I understand the faux-cyrillic you are doing at the bottom, though, but not in the title line.


You want this...tokle?
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thanks for taking me seriously.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:16 pm

cairnswk wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:Also, cairns, can you post in the thread or PM me what the continent names should be for the XML? As is, I have no idea, lol.

Sure, but when the gameplay is sorted out, as we are still sorting continents and impassables. :)


Cool, thanks.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:32 pm

tokle wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
tokle wrote:Looks interesting, but I have a request;
The title; could you write it out properly, in Cyrillic?
Since it's already in Russian, and sort of semi-cyrillic letters, it wouldn't take much to it properly.
To those of us who understand it, it just looks horrible like that.
And to those of us who don't understand it, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway, would it?

I understand the faux-cyrillic you are doing at the bottom, though, but not in the title line.


You want this...tokle?
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thanks for taking me seriously.

Sorry, but your answer tells me nothing...i cannot read yes or no from that.
If no, please put up what you want.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [16.6.12] V7-P4

Postby tokle on Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:11 pm

cairnswk wrote:
tokle wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
tokle wrote:Looks interesting, but I have a request;
The title; could you write it out properly, in Cyrillic?
Since it's already in Russian, and sort of semi-cyrillic letters, it wouldn't take much to it properly.
To those of us who understand it, it just looks horrible like that.
And to those of us who don't understand it, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway, would it?

I understand the faux-cyrillic you are doing at the bottom, though, but not in the title line.


You want this...tokle?
москва-Сити

thanks for taking me seriously.

Sorry, but your answer tells me nothing...i cannot read yes or no from that.
If no, please put up what you want.

How about just Mосква?
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