Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

[vodean]

You two, (vodean and IB) have got to be kidding me. There is one reason I am voting for one of you two atm. One of you is a liar. One of you HAS to be scum. How is this not helping the town (my action) FFS.

FOS edoc for skimming... you mean aage and IB.

Since aage is likely mafia, we dont want to kill him. we want to kill smith. thats why we should kill aage.

you are just hilarious in all your posts, how can anyone take you seriously!

i literally rofled just now. ok. i didnt realize another page had gone by (i clicked back so i could read from where i left off, and went to other threads. so nevermind what i said about edoc. its irrelevant (point is still good, but its too late now).

for the second one, since we killed aage, then it makes sense. but i meant to say we should kill IB. save mafia for another day. scum, good luck killing smith. cuz if you dont, we will just kill him tomorrow. then we kill you. you may as well help out.

[aage]

for the second one, since we killed aage, then it makes sense. but i meant to say we should kill IB. save mafia for another day. scum, good luck killing smith. cuz if you dont, we will just kill him tomorrow. then we kill you. you may as well help out.

If you're unlucky, you'll have to lynch DJ and IB before you find smith, and he'll have taken over by then. GG.

[vodean]

well lets see who voted to kill aage. many of them were probably cult... or at least many of the cult probably did.

[betiko]

for the second one, since we killed aage, then it makes sense. but i meant to say we should kill IB. save mafia for another day. scum, good luck killing smith. cuz if you dont, we will just kill him tomorrow. then we kill you. you may as well help out.

If you're unlucky, you'll have to lynch DJ and IB before you find smith, and he'll have taken over by then. GG.

maybe you're just a cult recruit.. just read about cult roles cause no body explained it too much... it says that if a cult leader recruits a mafia he gets killed...
why would other people have been killed by smith on the first 2 nights?? killer+recruiter seems a bit too much...
I hope that neo is a vigilante, cause unfortunately cowboyz wasn't there long enough..
AAge's comment on ib and dj seems like pure wifom........

[jak111]

Since aage is likely mafia, we dont want to kill him. we want to kill smith. thats why we should kill aage.

Are you saying he's cloning himself with this line Vodean?

If he's mafia role blocker I'll be happy, if he's Smith I'll be happier.

2. edocsil ~ Trainman, 3rd party Survivor
3. jak111 ~ Trinity, Town Tracker
4. DoomYoshi ~ Neo Town Hider (With new abilities)
5. Iron Butterfly ~ Claimed Keymaker VT
6. MoB Deadly ~ Niobe, Town Doc
7. aage ~ Claimed Keymaker Roleblocker
8. Leehar ~ Sibling Bodyguard 3rd party Survivor
10. thehippo8 ~ Zee VT
11. betiko ~ 3rd party survivor
13. pmchugh ~ VT 3rd party Survivor
14. Djfireside ~ Claimed Spoon Boy Commuter
15. vodean ~ Claimed Mouse VT (Tracked, so can't be Smith)
17. jonty125 ~ 3rd Party Survivor
18. everywhere116 ~ Sati Town Priest
22. thechuck51 ~ Claimed Ghost Vengeful Townie
23. Nebuchadnezer V 2.0 ~ Oracle Town Cop
24. soundman ~ Claimed Dozer VT

(Didn't bother with mason/lover tags since everyone knows that by now)

So with the people left who are not cleared/survivors

Iron Butterfly ~ Claimed Keymaker VT
aage ~ Claimed Keymaker Roleblocker
Djfireside ~ Claimed Spoon Boy Commuter
vodean ~ Claimed Mouse VT (Tracked, so can't be Smith)
thechuck51 ~ Claimed Ghost Vengeful Townie
soundman ~ Claimed Dozer VT

I put Vodean back onto the list because they are not 100% cleared.

So with the above 6 left. We all agree one is Smith (Not Vodean, they have been at least tracked), leaving 5 candidates for that one. Also, 3-4 are Mafia, making 1-2 town. (Though honestly I'll put my bets on 4 mafia remain to give the mafia a chance in this sized game, making it 1 townie left in those 6).

Now, for my opinion and because of how main they are, either Vodean or Soundman are town. I lean more toward Vodean only because they have no night action. However, the other 4 are Smith/Town. Giving us a list like this.

Iron Butterfly ~ Claimed Keymaker VT (Mafia/Smith)
aage ~ Claimed Keymaker Roleblocker (Mafia/Smith)
Djfireside ~ Claimed Spoon Boy Commuter (Mafia)
vodean ~ Claimed Mouse VT (Tracked, so can't be Smith) (Town/Mafia)
thechuck51 ~ Claimed Ghost Vengeful Townie (Mafia)
soundman ~ Claimed Dozer VT (Town/Mafia)

IB and Aage are the only candidates for Smith because they feud with each other, making them in separate teams. HOWEVER, I lean toward Aage because he is even against Dj whom is 99% mafia.

[betiko]

IB and Aage are the only candidates for Smith because they feud with each other, making them in separate teams. HOWEVER, I lean toward Aage because he is even against Dj whom is 99% mafia.

i agree with all you say except for this. as i said previously, ib and aage can perfectly be 2 mafias trying to get 1 lynched so the other looks cleared. Therefore; I don't agree with dj, chuck, soundman not being possible candidates for smith along with IB.

what is better for us now, to hope that aage was a cult recruit or a scum?

[jak111]

IB and Aage are the only candidates for Smith because they feud with each other, making them in separate teams. HOWEVER, I lean toward Aage because he is even against Dj whom is 99% mafia.

i agree with all you say except for this. as i said previously, ib and aage can perfectly be 2 mafias trying to get 1 lynched so the other looks cleared. Therefore; I don't agree with dj, chuck, soundman not being possible candidates for smith along with IB.

what is better for us now, to hope that aage was a cult recruit or a scum?

I think either way it's good for us to get one of the baddies out of the way whether he's Smith or Mafia. If he's Mafia perhaps Mafia will take out the other tonight? Just a theory.

[Iron Butterfly]

Idiots... My role got replaced twice, do you really think two people would bail on Smith so easily?

Relax he is not who he claimed to be. I am the Keymaker.

I keep asking myself why would someone with a tone of pressure on them and likely to be lynched anyway take my roleclaim.

He will be mafia or cult. He will NOT be the keymaker.

The thing that just struck me...do we know how players who have been recruited by cult will flip. If they are cult will they flip their original role/faction or will they be revealed as Cult.

[DoomYoshi]

Do the survivors win independtly of each other? If anyone in the faction survives, does the whole faction win?

[betiko]

Do the survivors win independtly of each other? If anyone in the faction survives, does the whole faction win?

if one of us survives, we all win indeed, no need to have all of us alive at the end. so yes, we are kind of the faction with the easiest WC

[pmchugh]

Do the survivors win independtly of each other? If anyone in the faction survives, does the whole faction win?

if one of us survives, we all win indeed, no need to have all of us alive at the end. so yes, we are kind of the faction with the easiest WC

Pssht you shouldn't have told them until doom old us what his powers are, but what is done is done.

[Iron Butterfly]

On another note. Once Aaagee is dead it will prove I am the Keymaker unless someone else wants to to try and counterclaim me, which would be 100% welcome as that would draw out some other liar.

The thing that concerns me is that folks keep saying that I must cult/ Smith.

Why is it that everyone who has claimed is cleared besides those who resisted the mass claim?

I resisted the mass claim because as of yet NO ONE is able to say who exactly Cult can and can not recruit. All we have are guesses.

We have what 4 cult out there? 5? They can be mixed in with Town or the Mervs? I am going with the beleif that recruiting mafia will kill them. There needs to be some deterent against Cult.

Our Town Priest has been very quiet since they proved their priestly powers and we have no idea if they are Mafia/Town we just know they can not hammer yet they are not in the pool of potential baddies.

Why is it no one even considers that I am who I say I am other then to make me the boogie man?

[DoomYoshi]

Neb, might I suggest an investigation on either soundman or dj tonight?

I find it unusual that ghostly investigated me...

Thank you for the info bet. I would like to formally offer an alliance to the mero. I need all 5 of you to agree though.

[jak111]

Neb, might I suggest an investigation on either soundman or dj tonight?

I find it unusual that ghostly investigated me...

Thank you for the info bet. I would like to formally offer an alliance to the mero. I need all 5 of you to agree though.

We have an alliance with them. Only PMC doesn't care which side he is on (Could have been converted). Also there are only 3 Cult atm, so Smith, definitely at least one survivor, and someone else whether their town, mafia, or survivor.

But either way, the little guys aren't our main concern, Smith is. Even Mafia have something to fear against him.

[everywhere116]

Well, I certainly didn't expect aage to be lynched so fast. Anyway, we need to decide our next course of actions based on the result of the lynch:

What will we do if aage is a town roleblocker as he claims?

What will we do if he is scum?

What will we do if he is cult?

What will we do if he is Smith?