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What We Believe #3 - Wealth Creation

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:01 pm

#1 Small Government and Free Enterprise.
Bill Whittle chalks out the basics of Tea Party Conservatism. In this segment, Bill talks about the advantages of small government and free enterprise.

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Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:46 pm

In Part 2 of his series on what Tea Party Conservatives believe, Bill looks at the problems and dangers associated with elitism and elitist philosophy.


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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:21 pm

Is it small government to create drug testing for welfare recipients?
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:22 pm

Woodruff wrote:Is it small government to create drug testing for welfare recipients?


No. Government welfare, in all it's forms, is a staple of big government and redistribution of wealth.

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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Symmetry on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:52 pm

Is "redistribution of wealth" a phrase you've ever thought about, or is it something you heard and have been trained to repeat?
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:02 pm

Symmetry wrote:Is "redistribution of wealth" a phrase you've ever thought about, or is it something you heard and have been trained to repeat?


I think about it every second Monday Symm....
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:04 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Is it small government to create drug testing for welfare recipients?


No. Government welfare, in all it's forms, is a staple of big government and redistribution of wealth.


The welfare already existed, so that is irrelevant to my question - would you like to answer the question? Or was the "no" the answer to my question?
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Symmetry on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:06 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Is "redistribution of wealth" a phrase you've ever thought about, or is it something you heard and have been trained to repeat?


I think about it every second Monday Symm....


Are you saying you use it more often than you think about it?
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:07 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Is it small government to create drug testing for welfare recipients?


No. Government welfare, in all it's forms, is a staple of big government and redistribution of wealth.


I thought when I made a purchase that was a redistribution of wealth...isn't it?
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:29 pm

I watched the first 60 seconds or so of Scott's second video and this may be a case of shooting the message when you should be shooting the messenger (no offense, Scott).

Whittle, whomever he is, makes a few pretty decent example-based points about the evolution of the U.S. into a crowned republic, where an entrenched political caste controls the levers of power; three of his five examples are Republicans.

    From the sixty-seconds or so I watched it's difficult for me to put down the video too heavily since I've made the same comments here in The Club as a reason for abolishing elections.
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:02 am

saxitoxin wrote:I watched the first 60 seconds or so of Scott's second video and this may be a case of shooting the message when you should be shooting the messenger (no offense, Scott).

Whittle, whomever he is, makes a few pretty decent example-based points about the evolution of the U.S. into a crowned republic, where an entrenched political caste controls the levers of power; three of his five examples are Republicans.

    From the sixty-seconds or so I watched it's difficult for me to put down the video too heavily since I've made the same comments here in The Club as a reason for abolishing elections.


Why abolish elections? Since the 1910s, we see the beginning of the significant growth of government, so I don't see elections being the main problem.

(Of course, it depends on what kind of political system you favor as an alternative to any system which uses elections.)
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:23 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I watched the first 60 seconds or so of Scott's second video and this may be a case of shooting the message when you should be shooting the messenger (no offense, Scott).

Whittle, whomever he is, makes a few pretty decent example-based points about the evolution of the U.S. into a crowned republic, where an entrenched political caste controls the levers of power; three of his five examples are Republicans.

    From the sixty-seconds or so I watched it's difficult for me to put down the video too heavily since I've made the same comments here in The Club as a reason for abolishing elections.


Why abolish elections? Since the 1910s, we see the beginning of the significant growth of government, so I don't see elections being the main problem.

(Of course, it depends on what kind of political system you favor as an alternative to any system which uses elections.)


He meant to say "elitist banker" controlled elections. 1910 sounds about right.
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Woodruff on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:32 am

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Is it small government to create drug testing for welfare recipients?


No. Government welfare, in all it's forms, is a staple of big government and redistribution of wealth.


The welfare already existed, so that is irrelevant to my question - would you like to answer the question? Or was the "no" the answer to my question?


Ok then, since you're not answering, I'll go with "No" as your answer to my question unless you state otherwise. Since you recognize that it is not "small government" to create drug testing for welfare recipients, then I conclude that you're not really interested in "small government" at all. You're simply interested in "what Phatscotty wants government".
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Re: What We Believe #2 - Elitism

Postby Night Strike on Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:34 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Is it small government to create drug testing for welfare recipients?


No. Government welfare, in all it's forms, is a staple of big government and redistribution of wealth.


The welfare already existed, so that is irrelevant to my question - would you like to answer the question? Or was the "no" the answer to my question?


Ok then, since you're not answering, I'll go with "No" as your answer to my question unless you state otherwise. Since you recognize that it is not "small government" to create drug testing for welfare recipients, then I conclude that you're not really interested in "small government" at all. You're simply interested in "what Phatscotty wants government".


The small government approach would be to remove the welfare.
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Re: What We Believe #3 - Wealth Creation

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:59 pm

In Part 3 of the series, Bill shows how wealth can be created from thin air.


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