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Re: This is Sparta!? [1 JUL 2012] v2 [p.2/2]

Postby Campin_Killer on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:10 pm

v3
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Changes:
  • Split the Persian Rear bonus
  • Fixed the river misconception
  • Fixed another area where it looked like there was a river

To-Do:
  • In hindsight, I think I need to change the new bonus' color
  • Clean up some of the blotted borders
  • Clean up the area around the mountains where they don't completely cover the blue (smack in the middle of the map, and is ugly in my opinion)
  • EDIT: Just noticed the different text in the key, gotta fix that too

Do you think I should change that new bonus color?
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Re: This is Sparta!? [1 JUL 2012] v3 [p.2/2]

Postby tkr4lf on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:44 pm

Yeah, I would change the color of the new bonus. Fuschia (or whatever color that is) isn't very pleasing to the eye.

It looks like the Persian Camp color in the legend doesn't quite match up with the Persian Camp color on the map. Also, it's kind of hard to read some of the Legend information due to the water. Maybe putting it all in some sort of box with a different color background would help that?

You may have answered me already on this, but I'm still confused about it. It says there is a +2 bonus for Greek HQ. To get that +2, do you have to hold Spartans, Withdrawal Route, Greek HQ, and all 3 of the Greek HQ- Inner territories?


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Re: This is Sparta!? [1 JUL 2012] v3 [p.2/2]

Postby Campin_Killer on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:10 pm

tkr4lf wrote:Yeah, I would change the color of the new bonus. Fuschia (or whatever color that is) isn't very pleasing to the eye.

It looks like the Persian Camp color in the legend doesn't quite match up with the Persian Camp color on the map. Also, it's kind of hard to read some of the Legend information due to the water. Maybe putting it all in some sort of box with a different color background would help that?
I might try to make it looks like it's on an old scroll. Not sure how to do this on GIMP, so if you see a guide link, that'd be a big help. As for the color, I'm not sure what went wrong there, but I'll look into it

You may have answered me already on this, but I'm still confused about it. It says there is a +2 bonus for Greek HQ. To get that +2, do you have to hold Spartans, Withdrawal Route, Greek HQ, and all 3 of the Greek HQ- Inner territories?
Ha, I should probably make it even more clear that for the +2 you must hold the outer HQ

Keep up the good work! :)
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Re: This is Sparta!? [1 JUL 2012] v3 [p.2/2]

Postby Campin_Killer on Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:23 am

v4
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Changes
  • As requested, changed the bonus color
  • Fixed the faded colors in the key, it was because it was on the same layer as the Spartan symbol
  • Added a semi "old-paper" texture to the key
  • Fixed text in key
  • Covered the blue under the mountains
  • Minor border fixes

To-Do:
  • Fix up the borders a bit more
  • Fix the key where it doesn't meet the edge :|
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:29 am

I think this is a decent idea for a map. What is your overall goal in terms of thematic graphic? What do you see this project looking like visually?


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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:01 pm

Campin_Killer, here is something for you. ;) Please take this all in the spirit of that as a new map maker, I want to help you get this made and I understand that some of this may be beyond you at the moment, but all you need to do is ask away.

Firstly, you need to decide on what you want your map to look like as right now it is just a mixture of shape and colour. Here are a few ideas for you to consider.
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As this in historical map, I would suggest one of the old paper ones. The first one would look really nice for this. When you decide on what you want the map to look like, we can go from there and start to get things moving along. ;) I am not asking you to make it your next draft, but this sort of focus will be needed.
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby Campin_Killer on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:41 pm

I think the first one on those that you listed, just hopefully not, you know...giant like that. But it makes it look like an old map, which is pretty good, IMO
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:38 pm

OK then. First things first.

Find some old paper on the internet (must be royalty free). Please post the link for where you found it so I can double check.
Scale it to the right size.
Now comes the easy part. Starting to redraw the whole thing from scratch. :P
Did you use the paths that I showed you from page one of this thread? If not, go and read it now. As the next part is going to use them a lot.
One different layers, use the paths to draw the outline of the maps continents, and the territ lines. Use the fuzzy brush for both of these. Territ lines need to be smaller that the continent bonuses. A trick you can use here is to use a jpeg of your map on a layer above the paper. Set the opacity to around 50%. Now you can see your map and the paper.
And this is as far as you should be able to go in one update. You should end up with this in your layers...
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old map 50% opacity
Continent borders in black.
Territ lines in black.

When that is done, I will post some tips on how to get some of the things done, but you will need to do the rest, unless you are really stuck. :-$

One thing that will need to be looked at when you come to do it again, look at your fonts. Right now, you have modern fonts for an old map. Find one that suits the map.
Look here. http://www.dafont.com/

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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:46 pm

koontz1973 wrote:OK then. First things first.

Find some old paper on the internet (must be royalty free). Please post the link for where you found it so I can double check.

koontz

If you type in Public Domian old paper textures, then you should be able to find one easily enough. Always double check to make sure though as I have found things that came up under my search term that were not in the public domain.

I typed in the above search term and it gave me a bunch of images. I noticed that some of them you have to pay for so you can skip those. This is a good start, so happy hunting!!
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby Campin_Killer on Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:16 pm

This is the page I found I'll be working on it
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:40 pm

You can use that one. Looking forward to seeing this.
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby Campin_Killer on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:44 am

Haven't been able to update, got busy last week with packing for the beach, this week I'm at the beach, and no GIMP, so I'll work on it more once I get back
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 [p.2/2]

Postby x-raider on Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:45 pm

Thanks for that. I was getting worried...
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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 P. 1 & 2

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:43 pm

[Moved]

Development of this map seems to of stalled. Will get it moved back as soon as an update has been made.

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Re: This is Sparta!? [2 JUL 2012] v4 P. 1 & 2

Postby x-raider on Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:56 am

koontz1973 wrote:[Moved]

Development of this map seems to of stalled. Will get it moved back as soon as an update has been made.

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