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The Dark Knight Rises: DVD release Dec 4th

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:42 am

I can't wait to see the rumble on Wall Street

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Yet despite the inclusion of many of the now requisite elements for a summer blockbuster ā€” an A-list cast, massive budget, and high-wire action sequences ā€” the success of these films is also partially attributable to Nolanā€™s ability to tap into the zeitgeist and psychological angst of the day.

This is most evident in the villains of the films who embody many of the contemporary concerns that Nolanā€™s audiences were grappling with when the respective films were released.

Batman Begins, released in 2005, shows the metamorphosis of Bruce Wayne as he struggles with the murder of his parents as a young boy and evolves into the crime-fighting vigilante that goes on to protect Gotham. During this process Batman faces two antagonists who each represent different concerns that were widely being harbored when the film was released. Scarecrow (played by Cillian Murphy) is a sociopathic doctor who utilizes fear in order to accomplish his goals and neutralize enemies. Paradoxically, Raā€™s al Guhl (Liam Neeson) lived by a code of moral order, and sought to implement that order on all who had lost it.

Such a dichotomy was evident in the happenings of the time period. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were escalating, and fear lingered as to whether it was possible to quell the alarming amounts of violence and religious strife that persisted in the region. Another terrorist attack on American soil was a real possibility (a month after Begins was released, Londonā€™s public transit was attacked, killing 52). The 2004 presidential election between George W. Bush and John Kerry had been decided a mere six months prior to the release of the film with much of the campaign revolving on which candidate could more effectively handle the deteriorating situation in the Middle East and establish order in the region.

Much would change in the three years between Begins and The Dark Knight. The sequel, released in 2008, has Batman forming an alliance with District Attorney Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) in order to stifle organized crime in Gotham ā€” a plight compounded as the maniacal Joker (Heath Ledger) tries to plunge Gotham into a state of utter chaos. During the sequence of this movie Harvey Dent is violently disfigured, becoming the villain Two-Face. Dent as Two-Face attempts to radically implement the order that he could not as district attorney.

Here we see echoes of the confusion that surrounded the period. The situation in Iraq had continued to deteriorate, and no weapons of mass destruction had been found, leaving much of the nation angry at the misguidance of our countryā€™s leaders. Katrina struck in late 2005 and became the worst natural disaster in Americaā€™s history while also exposing social and racial inequality that many thought no longer existed in our nation. Much of what the American public came to question during Katrina was reflected in Two-Faceā€™s homicidal ponderings of whether fairness under the law was a reality or a fiction that does not apply to some. This disorder and national pain of the day had not been present in our nation since the peak of the Vietnam War, and is reflected the Jokerā€™s attempts at anarchy. Among the Jokerā€™s best lines in the film was ā€œItā€™s a funny world we live in ā€¦ Speaking of which, do you wanna know how I got these scars?ā€ While Joker was referring to the scars on his face which formed his perpetual smile, the nation itself was pondering much of the same questions at the time.

Now, four years later the nation has a new set of problems, and, accordingly, a new villain in the Batman franchise.

Bane (Tom Hardy) claims to be ā€œGothamā€™s reckoningā€ intent on inflicting pain to all who stand in his way and oppose his quest on Gotham. Catwoman whispers into billionaire Bruce Wayneā€™s ear that ā€œthe storm is coming ā€¦ [and] when it hits ā€¦ youā€™re all going to wonder how you could ever live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.ā€ And while it is not yet evident what Bane or Catwomanā€™s overarching goals in DKR will be, what is clear is that both are at the helm of a violent class struggle. These new charactersā€™ desire to inflict class warfare is reminiscent of the Occupy Wall Street protests, the aftermath of the 2008 economic meltdown, and the subsequent polarization of American politics. These events have placed the disparities of our own social structure under examination, an issue Nolan will clearly exploit in his newest Batman incarnation.

The Batman trilogy is more than a summer blockbuster or even superhero series. It has become a retelling of American angst, a depiction of our most striking fears.

And while the Scarecrow, Joker, Bane and Catwoman are all villains that seek to capitalize on our biggest fears and failings as a society, we must remember one thing through all of this: the good guy always wins in the end.

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No disrespect to Christopher Nolan, who I'm sure has his anti-capitalist political leanings in the right place, as revealed in the new trailer for "The Dark Knight Rises," which has bloggers all over the web salivating about the film's ominous call for class warfare: ā€œYou think this can last?" says the would-be Catwoman. "Thereā€™s a storm coming, Mr. Wayne.... when it hits, youā€™re all going to wonder how you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.ā€ But this is Hollywood, my friends, and at its best, the film will communicate a conflicted message; at its worst, it will make us all forget what OWS is really about.

Sure, all that talk over the summer about the film shooting at Occupy Wall Street and the trailer's not-so-veiled attempt at raising the spectre of income inequality and some sort of revolutionary uprising -- not to mention the ironic use of a child singing "The Star-Spangled Banner" and the destruction of an all-American football game -- suggests the film's political undercurrents.

But remember, Nolan's 2008 edition ā€œThe Dark Knightā€ offered a muddled political message, arguably heroizing pre-emptive attacks in a post 9/11 world. Maybe Nolan was trying to raise some questions about America's aggressive policies in its fight against terrrorism, but maybe not. Maybe people just walked away thinking the Joker was really kick-ass.


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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:05 am

Phatscotty wrote:Maybe people just walked away thinking the Joker was really kick-ass.


I've never been much of a Batman fan. Outside of the very early television show, it's been much too dark for my tastes.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby / on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:07 am

I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks Batman should have less money can get right the hell out.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:23 am

My fav scene from TDK
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Maybe people just walked away thinking the Joker was really kick-ass.


I've never been much of a Batman fan. Outside of the very early television show, it's been much too dark for my tastes.


Do the movies give you nightmares?
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:52 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Maybe people just walked away thinking the Joker was really kick-ass.


I've never been much of a Batman fan. Outside of the very early television show, it's been much too dark for my tastes.


Do the movies give you nightmares?


No, I just don't find it entertaining. I've lived through enough dark things in the military that I really don't care to see similar stuff in my entertainment, if you must know.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:16 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Maybe people just walked away thinking the Joker was really kick-ass.


I've never been much of a Batman fan. Outside of the very early television show, it's been much too dark for my tastes.


Do the movies give you nightmares?


No, I just don't find it entertaining. I've lived through enough dark things in the military that I really don't care to see similar stuff in my entertainment, if you must know.


like what kind of dark things?

Black Mambas?
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:21 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Maybe people just walked away thinking the Joker was really kick-ass.


I've never been much of a Batman fan. Outside of the very early television show, it's been much too dark for my tastes.


Do the movies give you nightmares?


No, I just don't find it entertaining. I've lived through enough dark things in the military that I really don't care to see similar stuff in my entertainment, if you must know.


like what kind of dark things?
Black Mambas?


The Hutu slaughter of the Tutsis in Rwanda, primarily, since you asked.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:49 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Maybe people just walked away thinking the Joker was really kick-ass.


I've never been much of a Batman fan. Outside of the very early television show, it's been much too dark for my tastes.


Do the movies give you nightmares?


No, I just don't find it entertaining. I've lived through enough dark things in the military that I really don't care to see similar stuff in my entertainment, if you must know.


like what kind of dark things?
Black Mambas?


The Hutu slaughter of the Tutsis in Rwanda, primarily, since you asked.


That was YOU?
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Woodruff on Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:30 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:I've never been much of a Batman fan. Outside of the very early television show, it's been much too dark for my tastes.


Do the movies give you nightmares?


No, I just don't find it entertaining. I've lived through enough dark things in the military that I really don't care to see similar stuff in my entertainment, if you must know.


like what kind of dark things?
Black Mambas?


The Hutu slaughter of the Tutsis in Rwanda, primarily, since you asked.


That was YOU?


I was unfortunately among those in the area.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby vodean on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:57 am

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
The Hutu slaughter of the Tutsis in Rwanda, primarily, since you asked.


That was YOU?


I was unfortunately among those in the area.
well everyone in the area either died, took part, or both. and since im pretty sure you arent dead, you must have taken part.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Woodruff on Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:39 pm

vodean wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
The Hutu slaughter of the Tutsis in Rwanda, primarily, since you asked.


That was YOU?


I was unfortunately among those in the area.


well everyone in the area either died, took part, or both. and since im pretty sure you arent dead, you must have taken part.


Did that actually make sense to you when you wrote it?
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:39 am

OMG!!!!!! the movie was just as awesome as I hoped it would be! I admit, I looked over at the door in the theatre every time someone walked through it, but I knew for 100% certain that I was safe at all times anyways.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby puppydog85 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:19 am

And the reason you knew you were safe? ;)
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:14 pm

puppydog85 wrote:And the reason you knew you were safe? ;)


Phatscotty claims he knows how to handle a weapon. That's why he worded it the way he did...he likes to talk about it, so people won't think he's just a poser, but he hasn't figured out that's why so many of us think he's a poser.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby maasman on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm

puppydog85 wrote:And the reason you knew you were safe? ;)


I'm guessing it's because you have a greater chance killing yourself on the drive to a movie theater than to actually die at the movie theater itself. Honestly, there is no legitimate reason to be afraid after the attacks. It was one crazy guy in Colorado, you have no more and no less of a chance of getting shot today than you did last week.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:53 pm

Woodruff wrote:
puppydog85 wrote:And the reason you knew you were safe? ;)


Phatscotty claims he knows how to handle a weapon. That's why he worded it the way he did...he likes to talk about it, so people won't think he's just a poser, but he hasn't figured out that's why so many of us think he's a poser. troll


:lol:

The reason I knew I was 100% safe is because there is a law saying nobody can bring guns into a movie theater. and there is sign outside the theater that says "no guns allowed on this premise"

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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby maasman on Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:01 pm

It's probably illegal to bring in food and beverage from the outside as well, but people still do it.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:10 pm

maasman wrote:It's probably illegal to bring in food and beverage from the outside as well, but people still do it.


Right you are. More laws and restrictions will take care of protecting the industries profits on a 12$ bag of popcorn and a 8$ cup of ice with some Coke in it
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:37 pm

Who has seen the movie? What did you think about it?
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby maasman on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:42 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Who has seen the movie? What did you think about it?


I'm going tomorrow. I'm pretty excited.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby MeDeFe on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:46 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
maasman wrote:It's probably illegal to bring in food and beverage from the outside as well, but people still do it.

Right you are. More laws and restrictions will take care of protecting the industries profits on a 12$ bag of popcorn and a 8$ cup of ice with some Coke in it

Careful, you're starting to sound like a socialist commie hippie.
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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:59 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
puppydog85 wrote:And the reason you knew you were safe? ;)


Phatscotty claims he knows how to handle a weapon. That's why he worded it the way he did...he likes to talk about it, so people won't think he's just a poser, but he hasn't figured out that's why so many of us think he's a poser. troll


:lol:

The reason I knew I was 100% safe is because there is a law saying nobody can bring guns into a movie theater. and there is sign outside the theater that says "no guns allowed on this premise"

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Re: Occupy Gotham!

Postby pancakemix on Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:52 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
maasman wrote:It's probably illegal to bring in food and beverage from the outside as well, but people still do it.


Right you are. More laws and restrictions will take care of protecting the industries profits on a 12$ bag of popcorn and a 8$ cup of ice with some Coke in it


Theaters only make money from concessions. Nearly all of what you pay for your ticket goes straight to Hollywood, and the slice the theaters get is meager at best.

On another note, I thought the film was quite good. Avengers is still the better superhero movie, though.
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Re: TDKR

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:40 am

I just watched it; last one was way better, but I think it was better than the first. Some unnecessary scenes, and honestly I was disappointed in Bane. His delivery was a bit cartoonish and his motive was a let down. I hated his voice because I could only understand what he was saying when he was yelling. The Scooby-Doo reveal at the end was predictable, but maybe I'm just a cynic.

All in all I enjoyed it. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Avengers was better.

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