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The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:53 am

Original Thread: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 9&t=148217


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Tournament Player's Association - Year 2 (TPA2)

The second year of the Tournament Player's Association (TPA) has reached the following status. 45 tournaments have been created, of which four are Majors; thirteen are premier and the remainder are standard. Currently thirteen have been completed and the new scoreboard is now up to date with these scores.

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Note that tabs will be added for completed tournaments as they are completed.

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The format and rules remain the same.

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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby greenoaks on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:32 am

coming 2nd in a Premier event is worth 20% more than winning it
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:41 am

Thanks mate - now corrected!
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby greenoaks on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:30 am

kuma's and keith's tournaments haven't finished. the full list of the 12 that have finish can be found on the tournament tab by searching tpa2
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:49 am

Thanks again - they now match.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby kuma32478 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:00 am

greenoaks wrote:kuma's and keith's tournaments haven't finished. the full list of the 12 that have finish can be found on the tournament tab by searching tpa2


We're about 1/2 way through
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby greenoaks on Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:59 pm

Similarly those knocked out in quarter finals will each have the points for 4th place etc.

they should be 5th as 4 players have advanced to the semis.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:18 pm

Well, there are several ways of doing it. Really, in my view, the best way is to add up all the points resulting from 3rd and 4th place, divide by 2 to give to each player - and so on down the scoresheet.

Actually, looking through the 13 completed tournaments there are disparities between them according to number of players and type of tournament - some players can get a lot of points from being knocked out in the first round of some tournaments. Perhaps for next year we need to have a total number of points per type of tournament and allocate them to the lower places according to a simple arithmetic formula according to the number of players and levels within the game.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:20 pm

greenoaks wrote:
Similarly those knocked out in quarter finals will each have the points for 4th place etc.

they should be 5th as 4 players have advanced to the semis.

DaveH wrote:Well, there are several ways of doing it. Really, in my view, the best way is to add up all the points resulting from 3rd and 4th place, divide by 2 to give to each player - and so on down the scoresheet.

If they are eliminated in the quarterfinals, it should be divided between 5-8, not 3-4.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:27 am

Can I propose that, for a standard tournament knock-out, we have:
1st 500
2nd 300
3rd & 4th (210 + 150)/2 = 180
5th to 8th (120+95+80+65)/4 = 90
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If we are happy with that I'll amend as necessary.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:43 am

I have now amended the above scoring rules and reflected the changes in the results spreadsheet - the individual tournament scores now look a lot more sensible! Note that I have rounded up fractional scores.

All players names are in lower case to reduce the possibility of duplication of names that are slightly different. However there are three players (traffic133, rjhankey and mwaser) whose names are duplicated, so their scores will not show up correctly until the next tournament is added.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby greenoaks on Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:58 am

you are missing the rule regarding how many tournaments count toward the final score

In an effort to make the TPA less all-consuming we've revamped the scoring for year 2. As with Year 1 there will be 52 events that you can enter, however, unlike Year 1, you won't really need to enter all 52 to score well. Here's how we're going to work it.

There will be 4 major events (one each quarter). These are the Grand Slam events of the TPA and as such, any serious contender should join them. Each of these will count for your scores
There will be 16 Premier events. (four each quarter). Your best 8 scores in the Premier events will count on the TPA scoreboard. (you may enter more or less but only the top 8 scores will count.
Finally there will be 32 Regular events. Your best 16 Regular tournament scores will count on the TPA scoreboard.

Thus, there are a maximum of 28 tournaments counting on your TPA scoreboard.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:34 am

I have added that clarification under "Schedule". I'll have to work out a way of automating that I guess!
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:54 am

The planned finish of the tournament was in a week or so, so we won't be starting any new tournaments. Of the 45 though, the best 28 still gives plenty of scope.

Just thinking ahead to TPA3, I would be grateful of your views on a few things that I have been thinking about.

It is perhaps a good idea to have a break over the Northern Hemisphere summer period, so perhaps starting on the first Monday in September (3rd) and running through to the end of June. This gives the advantages of a break when many would be away anyway and also a natural break between tournaments to allow many to finish ahead of a new season.

If we had 44 tournaments therefore which would encompass 4 Majors, 16 Premier and 24 Standard tournaments divided equally into 4 sets of 11 games - with the same rules giving a maximum of 28 tournaments to count per player.

I think that the scoring needs some revision. For instance should players get points for joining but not winning any games? It probably does not matter, for their small score would be unlikely to count unless it was in a Major.

Should the points tables reflect number of games won to differentiate players who are knocked out at the same level of a tournament?

Your views on the above and other issues are welcomed!
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby mcshanester29 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:58 pm

Thanks for taking this over DaveH !!!! =D> =D> =D>

Definitely a lot of work!!!
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby flexmaster33 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:20 pm

thanks dave for saving a tourney that so many are participating in and looking forward to...a huge job indeed.
Let us know what we can do to help (as TO's of the tourneys within the TPA).

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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:06 am

Thanks guys! In fact I have now written a few VBA programmes for it so it's not that much work. As soon as a TO sends a result with players names and positions I can convert it to points by running one routine and then add it to the master scoresheet by running a second. Any work is only if I have to wade through the tournament statistics to get to a full player and position list- so that's one thing that TO's can do to make it easier for me!

Another thing is to prepare for a September start for TPA3! I was thinking of 44 tournaments (to finish end of June 2013 similar to this year) - depending on any feed back I get of course.

I'll try and get into TPA Year 1 over the next week or so so that I can easily update it with the final few results and report in the newsletters on progress in both tournaments.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby angola on Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:24 am

Tremendous work here, Dave. Much appreciated for taking this on.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:32 pm

Thanks Angola - quite a challenge but enjoying it!

Year 1 results have been updated with the last three tournaments to finish and can be accessed from:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AhVfEnhd4J0cdGxMT3VOQjhpdkp2Z2hPVG9QeDVkckE&output=html

It is too large a file to display all the individual; results as well, so the individual results will be on the following (not propogated fully yet):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AhVfEnhd4J0cdDBzRmRKUGlxdEtKUlR2Q0xUa1FGUlE&output=html
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:33 am

Darin44's tournament "Eliminate Yourself" is open for entry:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175194

I have assigned it to week 37 rather than week 41 to which it was originally assigned.
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby Leehar on Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:37 am

Finally won viewtopic.php?f=710&t=169189 so that should hopefully provide a decent boost into the top 10!
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:03 am

Leehar wrote:Finally won viewtopic.php?f=710&t=169189 so that should hopefully provide a decent boost into the top 10!
.....putting you in 7th place!
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby Leehar on Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:57 pm

DaveH wrote:
Leehar wrote:Finally won viewtopic.php?f=710&t=169189 so that should hopefully provide a decent boost into the top 10!
.....putting you in 7th place!

2nd place should provide another boost viewtopic.php?f=710&t=150512

How many others are still ongoing?
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby DaveH on Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:48 am

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MC's World Terminators
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Re: The Tournament Players Association - Year 2

Postby Leehar on Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:42 pm

Some of the longer tournaments have started finishing, which has lifted me in the ranks a bit. Swifte has also done well though so which tournaments are left, and are there likely to be any changes to the overall top 3?
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