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Postby shasha16 on Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:37 pm

I am currently playing my second No Spoils game. I really enjoyed my first game, not only because I won. It was on the Phillipines map. There was a fair amount of attacking and the capturing of bonus', defending borders was really important, and I like that. It was also a fog game.

The one I am currently playing is on the Luxemborg map. I saw this game that thought, that looks like a small map, it will be a nice quick game, so I joined it. Wrong!! There is very little action on the game. All we seem to do is build more and more armies on our borders. Occassionally we will advance one space. I am as bad as the rest of them. There is no incentive for doing much else.

Are most No Spoils Games like this, or is it just the nature of the map, or just the way we are all playing.

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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby shasha16 on Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:49 pm

I spoke too soon. It has livened up after I tried depleting yellow. He attacked back losing about 10 troops to about 35 if mine. Painful.
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby TeeGee on Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:46 pm

No spoils is the most strategic game here, which is why it is my favourite. Some are quick, but some do develop into "build" games.
I hope you continue to enjoy this type of play.
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby Gillipig on Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:31 am

You can avoid build games by only joining/creating games with a round limit. I rarely dared to join large no spoils/ flat rate spoils games before this setting arrived.
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby nicestash on Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:21 am

Also, play with more people. If there're only 3 or 4 players, there's no incentive for anyone to take out anyone else. But if there's 6-8 players, everyone gets away with more attacking
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby Gillipig on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:52 am

nicestash wrote:Also, play with more people. If there're only 3 or 4 players, there's no incentive for anyone to take out anyone else. But if there's 6-8 players, everyone gets away with more attacking

Until there's 3 or 4 players left ;)
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby ProStrategos on Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:10 am

Gillipig wrote:
nicestash wrote:Also, play with more people. If there're only 3 or 4 players, there's no incentive for anyone to take out anyone else. But if there's 6-8 players, everyone gets away with more attacking

Until there's 3 or 4 players left ;)


Yes, but by then someone's bound to have the upper hand, and can easily win, unless everyone else does something - either way, loads of action!
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby Gillipig on Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:01 pm

ProStrategos wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
nicestash wrote:Also, play with more people. If there're only 3 or 4 players, there's no incentive for anyone to take out anyone else. But if there's 6-8 players, everyone gets away with more attacking

Until there's 3 or 4 players left ;)


Yes, but by then someone's bound to have the upper hand, and can easily win, unless everyone else does something - either way, loads of action!

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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby ProStrategos on Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:17 am

Gillipig wrote:
ProStrategos wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
nicestash wrote:Also, play with more people. If there're only 3 or 4 players, there's no incentive for anyone to take out anyone else. But if there's 6-8 players, everyone gets away with more attacking

Until there's 3 or 4 players left ;)


Yes, but by then someone's bound to have the upper hand, and can easily win, unless everyone else does something - either way, loads of action!

You know this from having played one game? I wish I had your talent man!


It isn't talent - I've watched several games between veterans, and also, being new to CC doesn't mean I'm new to Risk! ;D
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby CJ Lues on Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:14 pm

No Spoils are Great! The least luck involved, me and my Team (The A-Team) play almost only No Spoil games.

Try these settings, our favorite:

Quads, Automatic deploy, Sequential, No Spoils, Chained reinforced, Fog of war. The Best!!! :D

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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby oss spy on Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:04 pm

No Spoils require strategy, whereas escalating requires you to knock out whoever has the least regions.

Throw in some Trench Warfare and you're in for a great game!
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby 72o on Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:15 am

No spoils is boring. I prefer the nail-biting, stomach-churning large escalating game where getting that crucial elimination is tenuous, and when it works out you cascade cashes into a glorious single turn victory.
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby CJ Lues on Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:45 pm

72o wrote:No spoils is boring. I prefer the nail-biting, stomach-churning large escalating game where getting that crucial elimination is tenuous, and when it works out you cascade cashes into a glorious single turn victory.


Not at all!!! :o
No spoils counts on your gray matter! That is of course if you play team games (standard no spoil games can definitely be very boring sometimes). Now don't get me wrong, I love Esc games, but sometimes it can rely a lot on luck (and then don't mention the noobs that don't know how Escs work).

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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby Viceroy63 on Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:51 pm

With Escalating spoils it is more of a Wheel of fortune or the Roulette wheel to be more precise. Any strategical play in the beginning can be offset at the end of the game by who ever receives the big enough spoils set trade to turn in first in the nick of time. So a large part of the strategy to Escalating Spoils is to survive to the point in the game where the spoils trade will work for you. In larger number of players it is more luck then attacking strategies as the strategy is simply to survive. In any game map with 6 or more players.

With less players in the game however, attacking Strategies can serve a greater purpose in the game even with Escalating spoils because there are less variables. That is to say that it can be more easily calculated how and what the spoils will be on which turn and to whom. But the ultimate in Strategy Games is found in the No Spoils game, on small or medium size maps with fewer players, especially in team games of doubles.

Add the Trench Warfare setting on top of all that and it becomes a whole different ball park in Strategy Games.
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Re: No Spoils Games

Postby Walthobum on Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:19 am

if you play escalating games mostly i think it means you don't really like 'playing' the game so much as rolling the dice and seeing if you've won.
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