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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Locations

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 21, 2011 10:49 pm

one participates, one does not.

There is no other way to judge it
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Locations

Postby thegreekdog on Mon May 23, 2011 10:56 am

MeDeFe wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:New theaters announced in AZ, CA, GA, ID, IL, KY, MI, NH, OR, and WA.

http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/theaters

You're going offthe new topic... I think.

And tgd, after reading the last three pages I think pd is more qualified to talk about schools of economics than you are.


I think he's more qualified to talk about the names of schools of economics than I am. And apparently you didn't read the last three pages of this thread since we didn't actually discuss economics in any way, shape, or form.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Locations

Postby thegreekdog on Mon May 23, 2011 11:02 am

Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:not surprised that you think that. but who is more qualified to talk about economics itself?


Greek has displayed pages and pages of econ posts, not even getting into right or wrong.

I have maybe seen one post from Dave in an attempt to get all economic on someones azz.

Greek is the winner on volume/participation alone


I don't know if I'm more qualified than pimpdave. I've certainly posted more on the subject than pimpdave. I'm also readily willing to admit I don't know something. As I stated in this thread, I didn't know that the economic theory I believe in was from Chicago; I didn't know that clever people referred to Atlas Shrugged as Chicago Economics pornography; I didn't know that a neurologist was a successful hedge fund manager. There are a lot of things I don't know; there are a lot of things about economics I don't know.

In any event, volume and participation does not make one an expert.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Locations

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon May 23, 2011 11:17 am

thegreekdog wrote:I don't know if I'm more qualified tan pimpdave. I've certainly posted more on the subject than pimpdave. I'm also readily willing to admit I don't know something. As I stated in this thread, I didn't know that the economic theory I believe in was from Chicago; I didn't know that clever people referred to Atlas Shrugged as Chicago Economics pornography; I didn't know that a neurologist was a successful hedge fund manager. There are a lot of things I don't know; there are a lot of things about economics I don't know.

In any event, volume and participation does not make one an expert.


'Expert' actually also had a verb form (hundreds of years ago), in addition to noun and adjective forms. The verb's definition was: 'To experience; to know by experience'---coming from Latin experīrī 'to try/experience.'

Not relevant to discussion at hand really, but I've always been interested in words, word origins, and how words change over time.

But maybe this is something else you didn't know, TGD! :D I'll add to your knowledge if you didn't already.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Locations

Postby john9blue on Mon May 23, 2011 1:43 pm

tgd

did you know that a group of crows is called a murder of crows?

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Clips!

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 28, 2011 3:23 pm

New Clips!


Brief description: In this scene early in the film, Dagny Taggart confronts her brother James about the need to upgrade a rail line. It illustrates the difference between objectivity and second-hand thinking.

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Clips!

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:35 am

I finally finished the book last Spring...

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Locations

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:04 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:New theaters announced in AZ, CA, GA, ID, IL, KY, MI, NH, OR, and WA.

http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/theaters

You're going offthe new topic... I think.

And tgd, after reading the last three pages I think pd is more qualified to talk about schools of economics than you are.


<reads past three pages>

Where's the economics?

And why do you hold that opinion? Because pimpdave spouts off nonsense and makes superficial claims, "I studied economics!" (what kind? what did he learn, if anything?) "HA, YOUR AN IDIOT FOR ASKING QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY THE MEANING OF SOMEONE ELSE'S POSTS!!" (see: my Q to tobinov). It's pd trolling. Come on.

Instead of economics, pimpdave seems to be qualified in the art of rhetoric if he can convince you of his alleged knowledge on schools of economics. (if you look back, he doesn't really explain what the Chicago school even is). (seriously? You gotta be trolling tgd here.)


(oh lewl, responding to a one-year old post. But still MeDeFe's post doesn't make sense).
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: New Locations

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:31 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:New theaters announced in AZ, CA, GA, ID, IL, KY, MI, NH, OR, and WA.

http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/theaters

You're going offthe new topic... I think.

And tgd, after reading the last three pages I think pd is more qualified to talk about schools of economics than you are.


<reads past three pages>

Where's the economics?

And why do you hold that opinion? Because pimpdave spouts off nonsense and makes superficial claims, "I studied economics!" (what kind? what did he learn, if anything?) "HA, YOUR AN IDIOT FOR ASKING QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY THE MEANING OF SOMEONE ELSE'S POSTS!!" (see: my Q to tobinov). It's pd trolling. Come on.

Instead of economics, pimpdave seems to be qualified in the art of rhetoric if he can convince you of his alleged knowledge on schools of economics. (if you look back, he doesn't really explain what the Chicago school even is). (seriously? You gotta be trolling tgd here.)


(oh lewl, responding to a one-year old post. But still MeDeFe's post doesn't make sense).


I puffy-hearted that exchange with pimpdave. It reminded me of SultanofSurreal. I wish both of those guys would come back and post, if only so I could engage in this sort of banter.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby john9blue on Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:22 pm

i hope dave and sultan have a contest to see who can chug a gallon of bleach faster
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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:02 pm





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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby Iliad on Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:39 am

john9blue wrote:i hope dave and sultan have a contest to see who can chug a gallon of bleach faster

But libertarians are famous for their compassion and great social ability, it's such a shame john's defying that stereotype.


It's also really amusing that Atlas Shrugged has been bitchslapped by the invisible hand of the free market.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:02 am

Iliad wrote:
john9blue wrote:i hope dave and sultan have a contest to see who can chug a gallon of bleach faster

But libertarians are famous for their compassion and great social ability, it's such a shame john's defying that stereotype.


It's also really amusing that Atlas Shrugged has been bitchslapped by the invisible hand of the free market.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:20 am

When people watch and then rate Atlas Shrugged on imdb.com, are they rating the film itself or are they rating the ideas expressed within the film--or even worse, are they expressing a kneejerk reaction to ideas which they have misconstrued?


Since Atlas Shrugged and Objectivism are such contentious issues, with which many people address emotionally, then I would guess most reviewers (in the explicit and implicit sense) fall in the later two categories.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby john9blue on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:10 am

Iliad wrote:But libertarians are famous for their compassion and great social ability, it's such a shame john's defying that stereotype.


It's also really amusing that Atlas Shrugged has been bitchslapped by the invisible hand of the free market.


i'm only compassionate to people who deserve it...

also, are you talking about the movie or the book? i could make a shitty adaptation of the (extremely successful) book and get bitchslapped by the free market. so what?
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby xeno on Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:38 pm

we read all this shit in high school. and it was just that, shit
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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby Symmetry on Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:51 pm

xeno wrote:we read all this shit in high school. and it was just that, shit


You had to read it at school? Ouch.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged II

Postby john9blue on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:56 am

i read the fountainhead in high school.

the class was a literature class. our teacher had a giant list of books that we could read and be tested on for points. i think i was the only person in class who read it, despite the fact that the teacher had 10 copies or so which any student could borrow. i read it because i had read anthem earlier in the year and enjoyed it.
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Re: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse, Shrugs...

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:17 pm

The Wet Nurse embodies the collectivist world in which he was trained. Although he has a degree in metallurgy, he has no practical skills. He merely repeats things he has been told and uses words cleverly so as not to say anything clearly. He is taken aback by Rearden’s insistence on calling things exactly what they are. His job is to determine Rearden’s output so that it is in compliance with the laws. But without the laws, there would be no need for his job in the first place. Rand, a strong proponent of unfettered capitalism, uses him to demonstrate the absurd ways in which bureaucracy fuels its own growth and the waste and foolishness required to keep an artificial system running. In a capitalist system, Rearden would be free to produce as much steel as his customers require, and they would be free to buy it or to go elsewhere if he could not give them what they wanted. For Rand, the simplicity of free markets stands in obvious contrast to the complex bureaucratic structures seen here.
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Re: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse, Shrugs...

Postby nietzsche on Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:54 am

Phatscotty wrote: [Atlas Shrugged] it's the World's #2 most influential western book behind the Bible.



ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA


is this guy for serious???????????


HAHAHAHAHHAA
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Re: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse, Shrugs...

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:55 pm

nietzsche wrote:
Phatscotty wrote: [Atlas Shrugged] it's the World's #2 most influential western book behind the Bible.



ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA


is this guy for serious???????????


HAHAHAHAHHAA


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1991, a survey by the Library of Congress and the Book of the Month Club found that readers rated "Atlas" as the second-most influential book, behind only the Bible


The Library of Congress is the research library of the United States Congress, de facto national library of the United States of America, and the oldest federal cultural institution in the United States. Located in four buildings in Washington, D.C., as well as the Packard Campus[2] in Culpeper, Virginia, it is the largest library in the world by shelf space and number of books.


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Re: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse, Shrugs...

Postby nietzsche on Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:22 pm

Dude, if that's the logic you use in all of your posts/threads/discussions... lol

There's no way to defend what you said.

One could just shut up had that been said by someone else, but the way you push you agenda and claim knowledge of the world and the economy and stuff, I had to say something.

It shows how little your perspective is, and your intent to further defend it shows also how you would go to inexplicable lengths in order not to lose a point.

I'm going to quote you here again, because knowing you, you will go and edit the post so that I end up like a fool:


Phatscotty wrote:I saw it yesterday, I am going to see it again today, and I regret not having read the book earlier. I have always wished there was a book like this available, I guess I just needed to get over the size of it and figure there is a reason why it's the World's #2 most influential western book behind the Bible.


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Re: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse, Shrugs...

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:42 pm

nietzsche wrote:Dude, if that's the logic you use in all of your posts/threads/discussions... lol

There's no way to defend what you said.

One could just shut up had that been said by someone else, but the way you push you agenda and claim knowledge of the world and the economy and stuff, I had to say something.

It shows how little your perspective is, and your intent to further defend it shows also how you would go to inexplicable lengths in order not to lose a point.

I'm going to quote you here again, because knowing you, you will go and edit the post so that I end up like a fool:


It's not logic...it's a source. It's not my credibility, it's the Library of Congress's.

My opinion has nothing to do with anything, I have not offered any opinion, or perspective, nor any intent. There are no points to be made or lost, it was just a simple statement.

You can ignore it if you want, but trolling the messenger won't accomplish anything.
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Re: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse, Shrugs...

Postby nietzsche on Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:03 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
nietzsche wrote:Dude, if that's the logic you use in all of your posts/threads/discussions... lol

There's no way to defend what you said.

One could just shut up had that been said by someone else, but the way you push you agenda and claim knowledge of the world and the economy and stuff, I had to say something.

It shows how little your perspective is, and your intent to further defend it shows also how you would go to inexplicable lengths in order not to lose a point.

I'm going to quote you here again, because knowing you, you will go and edit the post so that I end up like a fool:


It's not logic...it's a source. It's not my credibility, it's the Library of Congress's.

My opinion has nothing to do with anything, I have not offered any opinion, or perspective, nor any intent. There are no points to be made or lost, it was just a simple statement.

You can ignore it if you want, but trolling the messenger won't accomplish anything.


I can find 12309899802019380123088012 such misleading statements online, even by sources with alleged good reputation. Your quote says that it was a "survey by the Library of Congress and the Book of the Month Club", not a public statement by say, the president of the Library of Congress, and even if it was said by the president of the Library of Congress a he was and scholar, even then it wouldn't mean much.

But you didn't quote anything in your OP, you stated it as if it was very well common sense and a widely accepted belief that Atlas Shruged was the second most influential book in the west world. (And of course, a cherry on top "only second to .. wait.. wait The Holy Bible".

You didn't offer an opinion? It's a lame tactic you use, you push your points thru videos and links and BIG WORDS IN ITALICS AND BOLD WITH A LINK because deep down you know that you've been proven wrong so many times you can't handle it to happen again.

And I was trolling your OP because it's ridiculous and it bothers me that you would go ahead and post such a statement as if we were all idiots here, and were to take you word and the word of a "survey by the Library of Congress and the Book of the Month Club" (which you are, by some leap of awesome logic attributing to the Library of Congress) as truth, only because you say so next to 2 videos.
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