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Foe List Issue

Postby chapcrap on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:30 am

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  • I have tainaron foed because he will invite me and a usual partner of mine to a doubles game, but will never accept invites himself. It's bad for my partners because I don't want to play with him in this manner and for them it looks like we will both be playing, so I foed him.
  • Either tainaron or his usual partner, snusleppa, invited someone and rousseau72 to a game as opponents. The other player declined, which left rousseau72 in the second spot on Team 2 and the first spot empty.
  • So, needing a partner, rousseau72 invited me and was able to, even though I had the opponent on my foe list.

I don't think that this should really be allowed to happen. If I have a foe in a game, I should not be able to be invited.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby blakebowling on Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:15 pm

This is not a bug. You can join games with someone you have foed, but they cannot join your games.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby greenoaks on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:06 pm

blakebowling wrote:This is not a bug. You can join games with someone you have foed, but they cannot join your games.

that's right.

the Foe list stops them joining your games but allows you to join their games, if you want to. apparently you did. :lol:
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby GeneralRisk on Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:11 pm

chapcrap wrote:Operating System: Irrelevant
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Concise description:

Specifics:
  • I have tainaron foed because he will invite me and a usual partner of mine to a doubles game, but will never accept invites himself. It's bad for my partners because I don't want to play with him in this manner and for them it looks like we will both be playing, so I foed him.
  • Either tainaron or his usual partner, snusleppa, invited someone and rousseau72 to a game as opponents. The other player declined, which left rousseau72 in the second spot on Team 2 and the first spot empty.
  • So, needing a partner, rousseau72 invited me and was able to, even though I had the opponent on my foe list.

I don't think that this should really be allowed to happen. If I have a foe in a game, I should be able to be invited.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby Woodruff on Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:30 pm

chapcrap wrote:Operating System: Irrelevant
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Specifics:
  • I have tainaron foed because he will invite me and a usual partner of mine to a doubles game, but will never accept invites himself. It's bad for my partners because I don't want to play with him in this manner and for them it looks like we will both be playing, so I foed him.
  • Either tainaron or his usual partner, snusleppa, invited someone and rousseau72 to a game as opponents. The other player declined, which left rousseau72 in the second spot on Team 2 and the first spot empty.
  • So, needing a partner, rousseau72 invited me and was able to, even though I had the opponent on my foe list.

I don't think that this should really be allowed to happen. If I have a foe in a game, I should be able to be invited.


Idiotically, the site doesn't consider this a bug (I have a lot of difficulty in believing this was how the foe list was intended to function). Amazingly, your complaint has been an accepted suggestion with massive community support for going on five years now. Having the site work rationally doesn't seem to be much of a priority.

blakebowling wrote:This is not a bug. You can join games with someone you have foed, but they cannot join your games.


Just because that is how it currently works does not mean that is how it was intended to work. I find it unlikely that it was intended to work in it's current fashion. How do you conclude that this is not a bug?
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby chapcrap on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:26 pm

blakebowling wrote:This is not a bug. You can join games with someone you have foed, but they cannot join your games.

I thought they had changed that. That's why I posted here.

This: viewtopic.php?f=506&t=95434

It's essentially the same concept.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby king achilles on Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:13 am

Essentially, being placed on someone's foe list is being restricted in your capacity to join games.

What if there is a game that you wanted or needed to join but someone from your foe list is already there? Shouldn't it be that it would be up to you if you still want to join that game or should the foe list also restrict you from joining any games from the number of people that you have placed on your foe list?
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby chapcrap on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:10 am

king achilles wrote:Essentially, being placed on someone's foe list is being restricted in your capacity to join games.

What if there is a game that you wanted or needed to join but someone from your foe list is already there? Shouldn't it be that it would be up to you if you still want to join that game or should the foe list also restrict you from joining any games from the number of people that you have placed on your foe list?

I think that it should be that you can't join those games. If you have them foed, then you don't want to play them for some reason. You can get a notification saying they are foed. If you really want to play, you can unfoe them.

Of course, all of that isn't the issue here. The issue is being invites to a game where a foe is the opponent. I already described the reason why someone would feel obliged to accept an invite by a usual partner, even if it is against a foe. So, the situation shouldn't even be happening. It's the same type of situation that lack already fixed.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby aad0906 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:54 pm

king achilles wrote:Essentially, being placed on someone's foe list is being restricted in your capacity to join games.

What if there is a game that you wanted or needed to join but someone from your foe list is already there? Shouldn't it be that it would be up to you if you still want to join that game or should the foe list also restrict you from joining any games from the number of people that you have placed on your foe list?



If I have a certain sized foe list and I don't quite remember everyone on it, I would like to be "stopped" from joining their games. If I then decide I want to join after all (for example in a tournament or a clan war) I can simply unfoe them.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby blakebowling on Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:40 pm

Woodruff wrote:
chapcrap wrote:Operating System: Irrelevant
Browser: Irrelevant
Scripts/third party programs used: Irrelevant

Concise description:

Specifics:
  • I have tainaron foed because he will invite me and a usual partner of mine to a doubles game, but will never accept invites himself. It's bad for my partners because I don't want to play with him in this manner and for them it looks like we will both be playing, so I foed him.
  • Either tainaron or his usual partner, snusleppa, invited someone and rousseau72 to a game as opponents. The other player declined, which left rousseau72 in the second spot on Team 2 and the first spot empty.
  • So, needing a partner, rousseau72 invited me and was able to, even though I had the opponent on my foe list.

I don't think that this should really be allowed to happen. If I have a foe in a game, I should be able to be invited.


Idiotically, the site doesn't consider this a bug (I have a lot of difficulty in believing this was how the foe list was intended to function). Amazingly, your complaint has been an accepted suggestion with massive community support for going on five years now. Having the site work rationally doesn't seem to be much of a priority.

blakebowling wrote:This is not a bug. You can join games with someone you have foed, but they cannot join your games.


Just because that is how it currently works does not mean that is how it was intended to work. I find it unlikely that it was intended to work in it's current fashion. How do you conclude that this is not a bug?

I conclude that it isn't a bug because it's been turned in as a bug before, and was ruled not a bug. Don't be so quick to judge someone who makes a decision that differs from your opinion.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby king achilles on Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:23 am

A code to recognize if someone in a game is on that person's foe list and then notifying that person before he joins it, is on the webmaster's hands.

Until that becomes a reality, I guess we should all try to get along or survive the game if this situation happens to you.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby chapcrap on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:17 pm

king achilles wrote:A code to recognize if someone in a game is on that person's foe list and then notifying that person before he joins it, is on the webmaster's hands.

Until that becomes a reality, I guess we should all try to get along or survive the game if this situation happens to you.

Well, that's fine. I just thought that this type of thing was already coded against.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby chapcrap on Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:53 pm

This got moved from bugs.

I think that people on your foe list should not be able to invite you to games.
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Re: Foe List Issue

Postby Woodruff on Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:03 pm

chapcrap wrote:This got moved from bugs.

I think that people on your foe list should not be able to invite you to games.


I think we're heading into six years of it being an accepted suggestion that you shouldn't even be able to join a foe's game without recognition/acceptance of their being on your foe list. Since that would take care of your situation as well...
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