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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby dana1971 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:12 pm

Hi all,

I've cleaned up the graphics and decided to remove the hanging meat because I did a version where the meat looked real but it was a bit odd and didn't fit in, then I did a version with the meat rendered in a more illustrative fashion but it didn't fit with the realistic chalk board and frame. So I decided it best to just drop it.

I took off the black boarder on the stars because I thought they may make the numbers hard to read, but now I'm thinking I may need to make them bigger so you can see them more clearly.

I took on board changes to bonuses and neutrals, and tried to make the continent names more clear.

Here is the latest.

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The following regions will start with neutrals.

Tenderloin: 2
Tri-Tip: 2
Special Offer: killer 3
4 Star Meats Logo: 3

Let us know what I need to do next. Tackle the XML code, or is it to early for that?

Best Wishes,
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby ironmanbravo on Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:31 pm

Great Work Dana...17 versions is a lot but it will be worth it in the end.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:12 pm

dana1971 wrote:Hi all,

I've cleaned up the graphics and decided to remove the hanging meat because I did a version where the meat looked real but it was a bit odd and didn't fit in, then I did a version with the meat rendered in a more illustrative fashion but it didn't fit with the realistic chalk board and frame. So I decided it best to just drop it.

I took off the black boarder on the stars because I thought they may make the numbers hard to read, but now I'm thinking I may need to make them bigger so you can see them more clearly.

I took on board changes to bonuses and neutrals, and tried to make the continent names more clear.

Here is the latest.

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The following regions will start with neutrals.

Tenderloin: 2
Tri-Tip: 2
Special Offer: killer 3
4 Star Meats Logo: 3

Let us know what I need to do next. Tackle the XML code, or is it to early for that?

Best Wishes,
Dana


I like the changes, but you need to code a starting neutral in the Flank, Crown, and Brisket bonus zones to prevent, as much as possible, a bonus being dropped. Once you do that I can stamp it and send it up to the graphics guys. And I do agree that it is a little tough to locate the stars now.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby dana1971 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:57 am

Thanks,

Here are some additional regions that will start as neutrals:

Eye - neutral 3
Top Brisket - neutral 3
Flank - neutral 3
Left fore shine - neutral 3

Does that about cover it Nolefan?
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby nolefan5311 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:07 am

dana1971 wrote:Thanks,

Here are some additional regions that will start as neutrals:

Eye - neutral 3
Top Brisket - neutral 3
Flank - neutral 3
Left fore shine - neutral 3

Does that about cover it Nolefan?


It does. I would recommend changing the neutral from Top Brisket to Brisket, since Top Brisket borders a lot of regions, and when Brisket gets distributed, those troops will be trapped. But that's your decision :), and certainly not enough to keep this one from being stamped.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby nolefan5311 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:22 am

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Onward and upward Dana. Congrats!!

Just don't forget to post the image with the starting neutrals in the original post.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby koontz1973 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:04 am

OK Dana, now for some more graphics work. Here are my main points of contention with this map as of right now. Not a very big list. ;)

Fat - give this a slight yellow and some texture. Plain white is not what fat looks like, even on posters.
This map as of right now is too large. With some moving, you can crop a lot of.
Company logo chalk board - top right.
Auto deploy specials - top left.
Prices and impassables move in a tad. This alone will let you crop right down to the frame. Make it the same size as the top part of the frame and you have a winner.
Special offer sticker - the text needs sorting. Tail tip has no corresponding region on the map (I know it is ox tail). Also, it looks scrunched up in places.
Stars are hard to see behind the 88s, and with coloured ones on, almost imposable.

Can I ask you to bung on some triple 8s so we can see the map with them incase things need to get moved around a bit. As I said, these are my main gripes now so not doing to badly then.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby generalhead on Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:57 pm

This map looks so cool. Can't wait to play a game on it.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

Postby dana1971 on Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:55 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:Image

Onward and upward Dana. Congrats!!

Just don't forget to post the image with the starting neutrals in the original post.


Awesome, thanks for the sticker.

One step closer. =D>
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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby dana1971 on Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:07 pm

Hi all,

Here's the latest.

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koontz1973 wrote:Fat - give this a slight yellow and some texture.

Done
koontz1973 wrote:This map as of right now is too large. With some moving, you can crop a lot of.
Company logo chalk board - top right.
Auto deploy specials - top left.
Prices and impassables move in a tad. This alone will let you crop right down to the frame. Make it the same size as the top part of the frame and you have a winner.

Done
koontz1973 wrote:Special offer sticker - the text needs sorting. Tail tip has no corresponding region on the map (I know it is ox tail). Also, it looks scrunched up in places.
Stars are hard to see behind the 88s, and with coloured ones on, almost imposable.

Special offer sticker? I made it a bit bigger so the words are more legible, is that what you're talking about?
Ox Tail Tip? I don't understand this comment?
I've made a few regions larger so that the words fit more comfortably. Let me know if there are other regions you feel need more space.
I've sorted the star issue.

I look forward to feedback.

Best Wishes,
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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:09 pm

Tai Tip in the special offer sticker, what territ does it correspond to?

Text in the sticker also needs sorting. Here is a way to do it that will look good. Type the text on a straight line with enough space in between the letters. The copy and paste each letter into the sticker. Use the rotating tool in what ever graphics programme you have to give you the angle. You will need to do this manually to get it done nice.

Fat good, size good, stars good.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby ManBungalow on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:57 am

I've just noticed that you spelled 'Tongue' wrong on the sticker.

Other than that, I can't wait to play this.

And I think it's obvious which region 'tail tip' refers to.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:16 am

ManBungalow wrote:And I think it's obvious which region 'tail tip' refers to.

It may be obvious to you and also to me, but to others it may not be so clear. Always best to make things clearer.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

Postby dana1971 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:47 pm

Here are the fixes. Thanks for spotting my bad spelling too. I'm not a great speller.

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OK I think I got everything graphically.

Has anyone spotted anything else? 8-[

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Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:10 pm

In the Special Offer text, should you add a comma after 'hooves' so it doesn't read as "Special offer on all hooves tongue and ox tail tip. ..." ?


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Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

Postby dana1971 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:52 pm

Ok, no problem, I can add a comma. Anything else?
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Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

Postby iancanton on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:33 pm

the letter N is inconsistent. sometimes, it's a proper capital N, while it's reversed at other times. i thought at first that perhaps u used the proper N stylistically only for the first letter of a word and the reversed N otherwise, but that's not the case. the inconsistency has the unfortunate effect of making u look semi-literate.

acquire has a c in it.

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Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

Postby dana1971 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:51 pm

Cheers, I'll fix that too.

I am a bit illiterate.....If it wasn't for spell check I'd really be in trouble.

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Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

Postby iancanton on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:10 am

u have enough room to write Ox Tail 2 in full, although I always thought it was Oxtail rather than Ox Tail. O.T. 2 looks a bit untidy, in a way that R. Hind Shin does not.

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Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:24 am

iancanton wrote:u have enough room to write Ox Tail 2 in full, although I always thought it was Oxtail rather than Ox Tail. O.T. 2 looks a bit untidy, in a way that R. Hind Shin does not.

ian. :)


Also 3 and 4 can be written in full.

Remove the ox tail is on special offer text as you do not have it for the tongue or hoof.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby sannemanrobinson on Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:09 am

dana1971 wrote:Hi all,
koontz1973 wrote:This map as of right now is too large. With some moving, you can crop a lot of.
Company logo chalk board - top right.
Auto deploy specials - top left.
Prices and impassables move in a tad. This alone will let you crop right down to the frame. Make it the same size as the top part of the frame and you have a winner.

Done
Dana

There can still be a lot of space saving. If autodeply specials moves under impassibles (fat barrier) then 4 star meats can be placed on the left, possibly in two lines or rotated 30 degrees. The blackboard about the 4 stars company logo could be handwriting just like is done under special offer.

Or Special offer could be under the Ox tail tip and the company logo at middle.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby dana1971 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:46 pm

sannemanrobinson wrote:There can still be a lot of space saving. If autodeply specials moves under impassibles (fat barrier) then 4 star meats can be placed on the left, possibly in two lines or rotated 30 degrees. The blackboard about the 4 stars company logo could be handwriting just like is done under special offer.

Or Special offer could be under the Ox tail tip and the company logo at middle.
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Thanks for the comment sannemanrobinson.

At one point during themaps creation I did try some of your suggestions, but it looked unbalanced.
I felt the compositional elements needed a bit of room to breath on the page.

I plan to implement the other changes this weekend.

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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby dana1971 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:58 pm

Here it is again. It's time to play spot the difference. :)

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I believe I've fixed the spelling mistakes and Oxtail is one word after all so I changed that too.

Spot anything else?

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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:35 pm

Looking pretty good to me, nothing immediately jumps out. If anything does on a later look, I'll post something.

You should consider a series...4 Star Meats...and do a cannibal human next! ;) I kid, but good work.


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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby RedBaron0 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:19 pm

I forsee much colorblindness issues... hope I'm wrong. Lets see some numbers and the vischeck, please.
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