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by **Nobunaga** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:00 am

(Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

... Just couldn't help myself.

... Link is here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/ ... 2C20121024

by **BigBallinStalin** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:52 am

I never really understood why this matters.

by **Bones2484** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:12 pm

Shouldn't the headline be "Good Men Died... and Obama and team lied"?

by **AndyDufresne** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:40 pm

Nobunaga strikes at the heart again.

Nobunaga 2016.

--Andy

by **Nobunaga** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:02 pm

... Remember the Bush vs. Kerry campaign? Which one of them lied, I forget, but it was something like, "Bush lied and good men died", or maybe it was Kerry who lied...

... Regardless, I was trying to dust off that old phrase.

... But this does matter. A terrorist attack by Al Quaeda (sp?) that kills our ambassador. Obama knew about this as it was going on and did nothing to protect US citizens in harm's way.

... We always have a carrier in the Med. We have Marines in many locations around the area (the Med is not a big sea - 2 hours from Italy to Benghazi)... he should have done something! He knowingly ignored the situation and knowingly attempted to deceive the American people into believing that the whole tragedy was the result of a video.

... Why? Think about it. Obama got Osama. "Terrorists on the Run" is the narrative we're supposed to believe. Al Quaeda killing our ambassador does not fit the narrative and hurts the re-election campaign. Everything is political to this man, evaluated for its potential use or harm, even the death of innocents he had the power to protect.

... In case you forgot:

... If you refuse to admit the truth, don't watch the vid. If you do - listen to what they say.

... The attack is not his fault. Two of the deaths are probably at least partially his fault (some died hours after it began - time enough to get a few CH-53s full of Marines on the ground in Libya).

... His failure to act and his attempt to cover it up are nothing less than criminal. Who would disagree?

...

by **karel** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:02 pm

think everyone is going to far with this,just fricking move on

by **Woodruff** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:07 pm

Nobunaga wrote:... Remember the Bush vs. Kerry campaign? Which one of them lied, I forget, but it was something like, "Bush lied and good men died", or maybe it was Kerry who lied...

... Regardless, I was trying to dust off that old phrase.

... But this does matter. A terrorist attack by Al Quaeda (sp?) that kills our ambassador. Obama knew about this as it was going on and did nothing to protect US citizens in harm's way.

... We always have a carrier in the Med. We have Marines in many locations around the area (the Med is not a big sea - 2 hours from Italy to Benghazi)... he should have done something! He knowingly ignored the situation and knowingly attempted to deceive the American people into believing that the whole tragedy was the result of a video.

... Why? Think about it. Obama got Osama. "Terrorists on the Run" is the narrative we're supposed to believe. Al Quaeda killing our ambassador does not fit the narrative and hurts the re-election campaign. Everything is political to this man, evaluated for its potential use or harm, even the death of innocents he had the power to protect.

To be honest, it appears to me that everything is political to YOU, evaluated for it's potential to use or harm, even the story of the death of innocents.

by **spurgistan** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:10 pm

Umm, the headline implies causation. Unless Obama's inability to use the CIA time machine counts for failing to prevent the assassination of Ambassador Stevens and his Marine detail, it's hard to pin their deaths on events that occurred after their death. Should Obama have blamed their assassination on AQ before it happened?

by **notyou2** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:10 pm

Obama was not responsible for those deaths, however, Romney is directly responsible for a great many jobs lost in the US.

by **Nobunaga** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:44 pm

... Dodging like Ninjas now. Anybody care to address the facts?

... Fact 1. The President knew full well a terrorist attack was under way in Benghazi while it was happening. This is confirmed by e-mails sent from Benghazi by the attacked, to the White House (please see the Reuters article).

... Fact 2. The President did not send in the Marines. He did not send gun ships. He did not send anybody. He abandoned those people.

... Fact 3. Obama said (through Clinton, through Jay Carney, and himself) that a video was responsible for riots in Benghazi (a lie). Please see video posted earlier - listen to what they say and how easily they lie. If that doesn't unnerve you, you have issues.

...

... For all the attention this is getting from major media, it's like Woodward and Bernstein helping Nixon cover up Watergate.

...

by **Funkyterrance** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:42 pm

Cmon, everyone knows Politicians and Presidents don't lie.

by **tzor** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:58 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:Cmon, everyone knows Politicians and Presidents don't lie.

Presidents who lie (Nixon) should be threatened with impeachment and forced to resign, for the good of the Presidency.

Unless you are a Democrat and you lie about sex. In that case your wife should be elected Senator.

But remember, it's not just what happened "at the right of the BANG." We need to know what happened at the left of the BANG.

Left of the Bang is a very scary place.

Left of the Bang may make Opeation Fast and Furious "Spring Training."

Left of the Bang may in fact be TREASON.

Then came the Bang, and the deliberate attempt at a non response.

Then came the Right of the Bang and the crap attempt at a coverup.

by **thegreekdog** on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:18 pm

notyou2 wrote:Obama was not responsible for those deaths, however, Romney is directly responsible for a great many jobs lost in the US.

No, Romney is not responsible for a great many jobs lost in the US. Almost all major media outlets have proved that the Obama campaign's insistence on this "fact" is actually false.

As for this issue, I agree with spurgs... the title implies causation. Obama's activities subsequent to the event did not cause the event (barring any time travel paradox).