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Who is the King of the Kings of American Music?

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Who's the King?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:30 pm

Here are the Kings of American Music.

show: Michael Jackson the King of Pop


show: Elmore James the King of the Slide Guitar


show: Elvis Presley the King of Rock N Roll


show: Garth Brooks the King of Country Music


show: B.B King the King of the Blues


show: Jimi Hendrix the King of the Electric Guitar


show: Paul Whiteman the King of Jazz


show: James Brown the King of Soul


show: Dick Dale the King of Surfer Guitar


show: Scott Joplin the King of Ragtime


show: George Jones the King of Country


show: Harry Belafonte the King of Calypso


show: Carl Lee Perkins the King of Rockabilly


show: John Lee Hooker the King of Blues


show: Otis Redding the King of Soul


show: Stevie B the King of Freestyle


show: Fats Domino the king of Rock N Roll


show: Andy Williams the King of Easy Listening


show: Bill Haley the King of Rock N Roll


show: Benny Goodman the King of Swing


show: R. Kelly the King of RnB


show: Emilio Navaira the King of Tejano


show: John Coltrane the King of Jazz


show: Roy Acuff the King of Country Music


show: Kurtis Blow the King of Rap


show: Daddy Yankee the King of Reggaeton
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:13 am

I would say Elvis Presley. John Coltraine, or Kurtis Blow.

And I thought Hendrix was a Brit.

EDIT - I think of rock, jazz, and rap as American music, although rock was arguably perfected in the UK.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby Timminz on Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:49 am

Having multiple people listed as "The King of [the same thing]" is weird. They should all be changed to "A King of..."
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:58 pm

A king of Blues is tough, since each region sort of had their own champion. I don't think I'd ever be able to decide a definitive king of Blues...or at least one I wouldn't come back to again and rethink later!


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Re: Who's the King?

Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:24 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I would say Elvis Presley. John Coltraine, or Kurtis Blow.

And I thought Hendrix was a Brit.

EDIT - I think of rock, jazz, and rap as American music, although rock was arguably perfected in the UK.

Depends on how you look at rock. Though, it did orginate in the US.

King of Rock, well, generally Elvis is given that title, but I'd say someone like Little Richard is more suited for the title.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:47 pm

These are Honorary titles that performers have been given, or are called. So there's multiple repeats to argue about, like the King of Soul, or Rock. I sincerely question Otis Redding's being the King of Soul.

That Elmore James song rocked me so hard that I'm sterile now. I deserve it.

I was surprised to find that I like Daddy Yankee too. BUT SCOTT JOPLIN IS THE KING OF KINGS, RAGTIME YOU F*CKFACES, RAGTIME. That motherf*cker wrote the Pinnapple Rag. Don't you get that? He changed your great-great-grandfather's life with that joint.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:13 am

How did Hendrix get that nickname?

I've never liked his guitar playing. He might've been innovative, yes, but hardly the greatest. BB King was a better electric guitar player than him.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:51 am

R. Kelly.

I'm going to have a "Trapped in the Closet" livestream marathon on justin.tv the first weekend in december, I hope you can all join and discuss the greatness that is Kels with me.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:02 am

also, ignition (remix) is not representative of R. Kelly's R&B suavity. I'd go with Step in the Name of Love, Happy People, I Wish, I Believe I Can Fly, I'm A Flirt, or Hotel. Each duo of songs I've presented, show varying degrees of the R&B scale, all of which Kels can do well. The first two identify with wholesome african american family life, and the unconditional love that is held there. The second two show his ability to really portray emotional strength in the face of the "bad" life typical of the poor african-american community. And the last 2 show his "let's get down to fuggzin"/club hit ability.

The dude did a collabo album with Jay-Z, arguably the greatest contemporary rapper, and then feuded with him while on tour, reportedly leading to some of his crew killing a member of Hova's (not sure if it was killed or maimed, but killed sounds better). Hov didn't even do anything about it, because Kels is that legit and cool and smooth and playboy.

Once "Trapped in the Closet: The Next Installment" comes out, he will have over 40 "tracks" that form a "hip-hopera", something no other artist has done, and while the quality of the music and lyrics may not be his best, the fact that he's able to even continue a rhyming storyline that, while quirky and outlandish, continues to flourish. He described it as an "alien" because of how it has been able to continue growing, seemingly on its own volition, as Kelly has in the meantime written and made a bunch of other tracks (and even an album if I'm not mistaken).

So yeah, he's a bit of a joke at times, and being the King of R&B probably isn't as awesome of a title as King of Rock and Roll, but I really do think that at the end of the day, people will look back at R. Kelly's career with fondness.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:06 am

Overall, it would have to be Elvis Presley, just because he so fundamentally changed American/world music (even though, yes, he was in the "right place at the right time" to a large extent.... it still was him there).

I like Juan's list, however Jazz MUST be Louie Armstrong and Garth Brooks does not belong as king of country.. almost anyone is ahead of him.. George Jones is close, but I would put Woodie Guthrie in first, because he came first.... almost anyone is ahead of him. Bob Dylan certainly deserves mention.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby notyou2 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:11 pm

Army of GOD wrote:How did Hendrix get that nickname?

I've never liked his guitar playing. He might've been innovative, yes, but hardly the greatest. BB King was a better electric guitar player than him.


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Re: Who's the King?

Postby notyou2 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:13 pm

Nobody, NOBODY, can do what Hendrix did with an electric guitar.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:16 pm

notyou2 wrote:Nobody, NOBODY, can do what Hendrix did with an electric guitar.


I think people can. Jack White and Tom Morello immediately come to mind.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby notyou2 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:24 pm

I love Jack White, don't know the other guy. However, when Jimi was alive they did not have nearly as many effects they could do with petals, etc, today. I truly believe we will never see another guitarist with the skills that Jimi possessed, I am not saying he was the best at everything, but he could do so many things no one else could. He played feedback like no others, and that was just one of his skills.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:28 pm

notyou2 wrote:don't know the other guy..


Clearly, you haven't followed guitar playing since 1995. Come back when you have a clue.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby notyou2 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:37 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
notyou2 wrote:don't know the other guy..


Clearly, you haven't followed guitar playing since 1995. Come back when you have a clue.


I'm old and stuck in a time warp.

'95 happened to be the year Gerry died and the last year I saw him, GAWD I miss him.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:20 pm

Instead of Garth Brooks, I would have put Johnny Cash, personally.The guy, even though he's dead, is still an icon in the country music genre (and to some extent, early rock music, as early country and early rock are about synonymous with eachother).
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:27 am

'sfunny when people discuss music and they've no idea what they're talking about.

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Re: Who's the King?

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:33 am

notyou2 wrote:Nobody, NOBODY, can do what Hendrix did with an electric guitar.


In my opinion, the same holds true for: King, Berry, Stevie Ray, Clapton, Gilmour, Page, May, Rhoads and many more.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:17 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:Instead of Garth Brooks, I would have put Johnny Cash, personally.The guy, even though he's dead, is still an icon in the country music genre (and to some extent, early rock music, as early country and early rock are about synonymous with eachother).

Yeah, forgot about him (despite the fact that he played on my folk's record player almost constantly growing up... lol)
I put Woodie Guthrie because he was earlier, and influenced a LOT of music, even today. However, the man in black is definitely worthy.

At any rate, Garth Brookes doesn't even BEGIN to hold a candle to any of them!
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:19 am

Army of GOD wrote:How did Hendrix get that nickname?

I've never liked his guitar playing. He might've been innovative, yes, but hardly the greatest. BB King was a better electric guitar player than him.

BB King is generaly not considered rock. However, yes, I would definitely put him on any list of greats.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:06 am

Garth Brooks prolly had more number 1 hits than Cash and Guthrie combined, and during a more competitive time.

There I said it.
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Re: Who's the King?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:26 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:'sfunny when people discuss music and they've no idea what they're talking about.

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Re: Who's the King?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:19 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:'sfunny when people discuss music and they've no idea what they're talking about.

-TG


Music snobs suck.


Maybe. But your opinion is invalid if you think Tom Morello or Jack White can compare to Hendrix. Not even in their wettest dreams.

btw, as somebody who's listened to waaay more blues than just about anybody, B.B. King is not the King. He's not even the best of the three Kings (Albert, Freddie, and B.B.).

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Re: Who's the King?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:51 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:'sfunny when people discuss music and they've no idea what they're talking about.

-TG


Music snobs suck.


Maybe. But your opinion is invalid if you think Tom Morello or Jack White can compare to Hendrix. Not even in their wettest dreams.

btw, as somebody who's listened to waaay more blues than just about anybody, B.B. King is not the King. He's not even the best of the three Kings (Albert, Freddie, and B.B.).

-TG


Do you think that Jack White and Tom Morello could not play any Jimi Hendrix guitar riff? I'm not suggesting that Jack White and Tom Morello are better than Jimi Hendrix as musicians or as creative people. I'm suggesting that they can play the Hendrix Star Spangled Banner. So when notyou2 says "nobody can do what Hendrix did with an electric guitar," I say, yeah, they can. I can play Bach on the piano, doesn't mean I'm Bach, but it also doesn't mean I can't do what Bach can do with a piano.
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