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Should NASA turn Voyager I around and bring it back to Earth?

 
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:35 pm

Dukasaur wrote:There are gold-etched phonographic records on board so hypothetical aliens that find them can learn about humans.


They included records from the '70s? Hopefully they at least thought far ahead enough to put some Elton on there. What are the songs?
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:39 pm

They're pretty much all Disco since that was the future of music at the time.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:09 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:There are gold-etched phonographic records on board so hypothetical aliens that find them can learn about humans.


They included records from the '70s? Hopefully they at least thought far ahead enough to put some Elton on there. What are the songs?


They included a selection of influential pieces of music throughout the centuries, ranging from Bach and Mozart to Beethoven and Stravinsky.

Oh, and a Chuck Berry song.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:01 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
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That's awesome that not only are we creating space junk but space nuclear waste as well. O:)

The Sun spits out about 80 tonnes of radioactive waste every second. 80. Tonnes. Every. Second.

And the Sun is not a particularly energetic star.

Fear not, our contribution won't upset the apple cart...:)



True but solar radiation and decayed plutonium or whatever the hell they have in there are two totally different paint jobs! I'm just imagining some unsuspecting E.T.s taking the thing on board and frying their sperms or worse by cracking it open. :cry:
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby tzor on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:48 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Should NASA turn it around and put the pedal to the metal to get it back to the Earth?


Short answer; they can't. It's already out of fuel. It's been using gravity assist to get it from point A to point B.

Second it's really old technology. By the way, the Mars rovers are also old technology. Cutting edge technology isn't used in deep space because you can't go there when it breaks down. So Voyager wasn't even "new" technology for its day. It's really really old.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby tzor on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:51 pm

maxfaraday wrote:They did not give it solar panels? It could communicate forever.


Standard solar panels won't work past jupiter. Basically you need "stellar panels" and they would have to be massive.

You basically have to put a nuclear battery pack in any long range explorers.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby tzor on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:55 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:True but solar radiation and decayed plutonium or whatever the hell they have in there are two totally different paint jobs! I'm just imagining some unsuspecting E.T.s taking the thing on board and frying their sperms or worse by cracking it open.


First of all, space is extreemely massive.

Second of all, space is extreemely deadly. A small plutonium battery doesn't even form a blip on the potential dangers out there in space. Realize that the E.T. would be playing with forces far beyond our ability to comprehend just in order to travel freely through the stars fast enough to find, locate and capture the item in the first place.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby tzor on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:57 pm

I should point there is absolutely no chance that it wil find a wormhole. :?

Absolutely positively no chance. :shock:

Well, if it does, don't worry, Kirk will save the day! :D
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:27 pm

Yeah, worms can't live in vacuum! Have you seen the way they squirm when you simply drop 'em in the water?
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:35 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Yeah, worms can't live in vacuum! Have you seen the way they squirm when you simply drop 'em in the water?


That was pretty cute. O:)
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:45 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Yeah, worms can't live in vacuum! Have you seen the way they squirm when you simply drop 'em in the water?

They're writhing in ecstasy because they know they will soon be part of Shai-Halud!
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:04 am

Dukasaur wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Yeah, worms can't live in vacuum! Have you seen the way they squirm when you simply drop 'em in the water?

They're writhing in ecstasy because they know they will soon be part of Shai-Halud!


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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby x-raider on Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:08 am

Thanks Saxi, Just wanted to be %100* sure.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby spurgistan on Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:11 pm

Pretty sure the answer here is blow up the Sun.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:40 pm

tzor wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Should NASA turn it around and put the pedal to the metal to get it back to the Earth?


Short answer; they can't. It's already out of fuel. It's been using gravity assist to get it from point A to point B.

Second it's really old technology. By the way, the Mars rovers are also old technology. Cutting edge technology isn't used in deep space because you can't go there when it breaks down. So Voyager wasn't even "new" technology for its day. It's really really old.


So essentially the satellite is the dead car to our galactic front yard.

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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby karel on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:31 pm

i say blow the stupid thing up,nasa is a waste of money
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:51 pm

karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:08 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:18 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
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karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies


Just because I think NASA is a waste means I am Pro-military? How does that work? Those are the only two options eh?
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:35 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
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karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies


Just because I think NASA is a waste means I am Pro-military? How does that work? Those are the only two options eh?


It seems like one might want to first fix the gaping hole wasting tons of liters of water rather than the little crack wasting 500 grams.(which, turns out, aren't really wasted in the first place)
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Postby 2dimes on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:11 am

I believe both shooting people and nuclear waste into space as well as killing babies lead to many innovations in civilian products.

People are not generally aware of how many civilian contractors are involved in making equipment for NASA. JPL has been making stuff for them for a pretty long time and I believe it's the main reason they won X Prize and are now making equipment for Ricky Branson.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:10 am

I see that the petition is still 24,999 short of 25,000.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:30 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies


Just because I think NASA is a waste means I am Pro-military? How does that work? Those are the only two options eh?


It seems like one might want to first fix the gaping hole wasting tons of liters of water rather than the little crack wasting 500 grams.(which, turns out, aren't really wasted in the first place)


Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:32 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.


Are they? For $18 billion dollars per year, what exactly do you expect out of them?
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:45 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.


Are they? For $18 billion dollars per year, what exactly do you expect out of them?


Meaning advances that can be useful to purposes other than NASA, to clarify. If anyone argues cell phones I'm going to laugh, btw.
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