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Are Contraceptives a Universal Human Right?

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Contraceptives: Universal Human Right?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:58 pm

Seriously asking. Why or why not?
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Re: Birth Control Pills: Universal Human Right?

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:05 pm

Do you mean access to birth control pills, or the very idea that there is such a thing as birth control pills in existence?


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Re: Birth Control Pills: Universal Human Right?

Postby kentington on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:07 pm

I don't think it is a Universal Human Right.
I don't believe they are available for men yet. I would hate to see the side effects when they do.
Maybe there should be a thread to define Universal Human Rights and what types of things should qualify and then we can get into specifics.
Is having food provided a Universal Human Right? (Please don't get into the semantics of this one. I don't mean the ability to have food, but should it be provided for people and that provision protected)

Unless you are asking whether or not everyone should be allowed access to them? If that is the case then yes it is a Universal Human Right.

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Re: Birth Control Pills: Universal Human Right?

Postby Vartiovuori on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:34 pm

I think birth control in the form of pills is too specific to be called a right. I do believe that access to effective form of birth control* should be a right, however.

*Abstinence doesn't count.
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Re: Birth Control Pills: Universal Human Right?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:41 pm

Vartiovuori wrote:I think birth control in the form of pills is too specific to be called a right. I do believe that access to effective form of birth control* should be a right, however.

*Abstinence doesn't count.


good point.

Lets change it to contraceptives
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Re: Birth Control Pills: Universal Human Right?

Postby greenoaks on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:41 pm

Falcon Punches are cheaper and universally available

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Re: Birth Control Pills: Universal Human Right?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:47 pm

greenoaks wrote:Falcon Punches are cheaper and universally available
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I bet BarackAttack comes out of retirement for this one....
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Re: Contraceptives: Universal Human Right?

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:02 pm

I need your definition of "universal human right" before I can answer your question.

You also need to answer Andy's question.
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Re: Birth Control Pills: Universal Human Right?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:06 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Do you mean access to birth control pills, or the very idea that there is such a thing as birth control pills in existence?


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"Access" can mean so many things. you'll have to define what access means, and how far it goes. for example: what if a birth control pill costs 1 billion dollars? or even 50$ per pill, per day, or even 20$.

the subject kinda got changed to contraceptives overall tho
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Re: Contraceptives: Universal Human Right?

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:16 pm

Purely IMO, I would consider it an extension of the right of bodily integrity. As such, I would think it's probably a negative right (i.e. the government can't try to foil your attempts to get a French Tickler) but, IMO, not a positive right (i.e. the government is obliged to give you a French Tickler).
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:22 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Purely IMO, I would consider it an extension of the right of bodily integrity. As such, I would think it's probably a negative right (i.e. the government can't try to foil your attempts to get a French Tickler) but, IMO, not a positive right (i.e. the government is obliged to give you a French Tickler).

This is my position though I don't mind that the free clinics here hand out birth control. Isn't harming me any since they have the budget.
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Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:24 pm

2dimes wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Purely IMO, I would consider it an extension of the right of bodily integrity. As such, I would think it's probably a negative right (i.e. the government can't try to foil your attempts to get a French Tickler) but, IMO, not a positive right (i.e. the government is obliged to give you a French Tickler).

This is my position though I don't mind that the free clinics here hand out birth control. Isn't harming me any since they have the budget.


Do they have the budget?
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:31 pm

Currently they do. We're pretty much the "have" provence these days.
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Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:32 pm

2dimes wrote:the free clinics here hand out birth control


French Ticklers? Either way, PM me the address. I have the Ryder for another 72 hours before it needs to be back.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:11 pm

Winona?!?

Just PM me when you're in town and we'll go for subs and grab some rubbers. I don't know if they give out fancys but they did have name brands. You can have my share.
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