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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby bedub1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:32 pm

Can somebody make a chart of these most recent attacks? IE Israel killed 15 people, Palestine shot 150 rockets, 140 were shot down, 10 made it through , 3 people received minor injuries. (These numbers are fictitious)

I want to see a break down of attacks, casualties etc.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:45 pm

bedub1 wrote:Can somebody make a chart of these most recent attacks? IE Israel killed 15 people, Palestine shot 150 rockets, 140 were shot down, 10 made it through , 3 people received minor injuries. (These numbers are fictitious)

I want to see a break down of attacks, casualties etc.


The Monitor had a good breakdown of the situation (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchan ... -this-year) -

    November 8 - an Israeli terrorist cell illegally crosses the border into Gaza and is immediately repulsed by the Popular Committees for Resistance

    November 8 (later) - Israeli terrorists retaliate by killing 12 year-old Ahmed Abu Dagah

    November 10 - despite heightened tension, Israel sends another terrorist cell to the edge of the border, Palestinian self-defense forces engage

    November 10 (later) - Israeli terrorists retaliate by launching an artillery barrage that kills four people at a youth soccer game and one Palestinian soldier

    November 11 - Palestinian self-defense forces respond by firing 100 rockets at Israel (due to the U.S. sponsored arms ban on Gaza, Palestinian rockets do not have sophisticated guidance systems and aren't able to target Israeli terrorist training camps with pinpoint accuracy so some fall astray)

    November 14 - Israel launches a terror attack against Palestinian government leaders, killing the Minister of Defense and a dozen bystanders

    November 15 - Palestinian self-defense forces respond by firing 275 rockets at Israel
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:45 pm

Wikipedia already has an article on this, yowza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pillar_of_Cloud

This is from the opening summary:

Palestinian militants fired 250 rockets into Israel killing three civilians and injuring over thirty. In response the IDF attacked Palestinian militants killing 11 militants, four civilians were killed in collateral damage. The hostilities marked the first time that rockets were launched from Gaza toward the Tel Aviv metropolitan area, Israel's largest.



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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby _sabotage_ on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:46 pm

Bedub, imagine you're 450 rounds into a game, you have 6 times the troops and all the bonuses and then 6 rounds later your opponent has 3 times the troops and all the bonuses. Those wouldn't have been a good 6 rounds for you.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:54 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Operation_Pillar_of_Cloud


Even the name of their attack is a reference to their religious zealotry. The Israelis are convinced they are implementing the will of God, like any run of the mill cult. See Exodus - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby smegal69 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:03 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Can somebody make a chart of these most recent attacks? IE Israel killed 15 people, Palestine shot 150 rockets, 140 were shot down, 10 made it through , 3 people received minor injuries. (These numbers are fictitious)

I want to see a break down of attacks, casualties etc.


The Monitor had a good breakdown of the situation (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchan ... -this-year) -

    November 8 - an Israeli terrorist cell illegally crosses the border into Gaza and is immediately repulsed by the Popular Committees for Resistance

    November 8 (later) - Israeli terrorists retaliate by killing 12 year-old Ahmed Abu Dagah

    November 10 - despite heightened tension, Israel sends another terrorist cell to the edge of the border, Palestinian self-defense forces engage

    November 10 (later) - Israeli terrorists retaliate by launching an artillery barrage that kills four people at a youth soccer game and one Palestinian soldier

    November 11 - Palestinian self-defense forces respond by firing 100 rockets at Israel (due to the U.S. sponsored arms ban on Gaza, Palestinian rockets do not have sophisticated guidance systems and aren't able to target Israeli terrorist training camps with pinpoint accuracy so some fall astray)

    November 14 - Israel launches a terror attack against Palestinian government leaders, killing the Minister of Defense and a dozen bystanders

    November 15 - Palestinian self-defense forces respond by firing 275 rockets at Israel


+1 =D>

Palestinian self-defense forces have rearmed and ready to repel Israel terror attacks
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:07 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Operation_Pillar_of_Cloud


Even the name of their attack is a reference to their religious zealotry. The Israelis are convinced they are implementing the will of God, like any run of the mill cult. See Exodus - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV


I think it's a pretty cool name. :|
You've gotta give them points for style.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby bedub1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:34 pm

I tried to do some of my own research, and this is what I came up with:

israeli troops kill palestinian 13 year old
Hamas blows up weapons cache in tunnel - wounds Israeli soldier
Hamas fires 2 rockets at southern israel, no damage
israel kills 4 @ soccer game
Gaza militants fired an antitank missile at an Israeli Army Jeep patrolling the Israel-Gaza border, injuring four soldiers.

Israel commits 20 airstrikes on gaza, assassinating head of Palenstien, killing 15, wounding 200
hamas launcheds 150 rockets, 90 intercepted, kills 3
Hamas does not assassinate Benjamin Netenyahoo
hamas kills 3, injures 6

Totals:
Israel kills 20 Hamas kills 6
Israel injures 200 Hamas injures 11

Sounds like a little kid is throwing rocks at your house and you come out with a missle launcher and take out the entire neighborhood.

Also if Hamas manages to kill Benjamin Netenyahoo, it seems to me it will be 1-for-1. Do unto others, turn about's fair play.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:41 pm

If my neighbour was trying to kill me and I happened to have a rocket launcher available, I would use it. There's no keeping score when you're trying to survive and someone else is trying to kill you. You either succeed in saving yourself or you don't.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby bedub1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:03 pm

Dukasaur wrote:If my neighbour was trying to kill me and I happened to have a rocket launcher available, I would use it. There's no keeping score when you're trying to survive and someone else is trying to kill you. You either succeed in saving yourself or you don't.

It's one thing for a soldier to return fire. It's another for the government to come back days later and slaughter people.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:07 pm

bedub1 wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:If my neighbour was trying to kill me and I happened to have a rocket launcher available, I would use it. There's no keeping score when you're trying to survive and someone else is trying to kill you. You either succeed in saving yourself or you don't.

It's one thing for a soldier to return fire. It's another for the government to come back days later and slaughter people.


In the grand scheme I don't know how much this applies.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby MegaProphet on Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:12 pm

bedub1 wrote:Can somebody make a chart of these most recent attacks? IE Israel killed 15 people, Palestine shot 150 rockets, 140 were shot down, 10 made it through , 3 people received minor injuries. (These numbers are fictitious)

I want to see a break down of attacks, casualties etc.

Here's some of the charts/images going around tumblr right now
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby bedub1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:37 pm

So should we make a Petition to Obama to label Israel as a terrorist organization?
EDIT: Somebody else thinks like I do:

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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:15 pm

who intentionally targets civilians and targets randomly?

probably the #1 reason why I see Israel as defending itself
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby _sabotage_ on Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:13 pm

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