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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby eggrollonedolla on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:10 am

A quick comment here.. If a "war" religious or not has gone on for 4000 years it's not ending unless there are no more people left to fight it.

I'm all for peace but the only way for that to happen is the countries are dug up and moved to different corners of the world. Let's face it that's not possible.

People and countries can reduce the effects of said war but it's not ending and that is a shame.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby Qwert on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:58 pm

one of few reasons why i move out of map foundry its not allowed to use historical symbols on mine maps .
Everybody here know that i create WWII maps,and any symbols on maps are in historical context, and not glorifying Nazi Germany.
Unfortunately some mods and Lack find that that any maps with WWII Theme who have Nazi Germany Flag could be insulting for some people,even when i don't get any complain.
Mine country suffer hard in WWII, and still i can very easy use Nazi Flag in mine WWII maps, because i have open mind,and i know that mine maps only historically represent some battles from WWII, and i don't advertize or glorify Nazi .
Even today you have many WWII Movies who use Nazi Flag with Swastika, because history are history, and in this context i think that its ok to use This symbol.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:24 pm

qwert wrote:one of few reasons why i move out of map foundry its not allowed to use historical symbols on mine maps .
Everybody here know that i create WWII maps,and any symbols on maps are in historical context, and not glorifying Nazi Germany.
Unfortunately some mods and Lack find that that any maps with WWII Theme who have Nazi Germany Flag could be insulting for some people,even when i don't get any complain.
Mine country suffer hard in WWII, and still i can very easy use Nazi Flag in mine WWII maps, because i have open mind,and i know that mine maps only historically represent some battles from WWII, and i don't advertize or glorify Nazi .
Even today you have many WWII Movies who use Nazi Flag with Swastika, because history are history, and in this context i think that its ok to use This symbol.


The only downside to using controversial symbols in your maps is that some people would be really uncomfortable playing them. You may say: "Well, don't play those maps then." but what if you enter into a tournament and you get randomly put on a map where the images are offensive? Worse yet, what if you are forced to be on the side that makes you personally uncomfortable?
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:33 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
qwert wrote:one of few reasons why i move out of map foundry its not allowed to use historical symbols on mine maps .
Everybody here know that i create WWII maps,and any symbols on maps are in historical context, and not glorifying Nazi Germany.
Unfortunately some mods and Lack find that that any maps with WWII Theme who have Nazi Germany Flag could be insulting for some people,even when i don't get any complain.
Mine country suffer hard in WWII, and still i can very easy use Nazi Flag in mine WWII maps, because i have open mind,and i know that mine maps only historically represent some battles from WWII, and i don't advertize or glorify Nazi .
Even today you have many WWII Movies who use Nazi Flag with Swastika, because history are history, and in this context i think that its ok to use This symbol.


The only downside to using controversial symbols in your maps is that some people would be really uncomfortable playing them. You may say: "Well, don't play those maps then." but what if you enter into a tournament and you get randomly put on a map where the images are offensive? Worse yet, what if you are forced to be on the side that makes you personally uncomfortable?


While it would be nice if everyone had such an open mind as you, qwert, everyone has their own unique personality and what makes them personally uncomfortable. We're a pretty open Community, except in a few cases such as bigotry, etc, where we feel that there are more detriments than possible benefits to the Community as a whole.


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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby AslanTheKing on Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:44 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:No i think it correctly describes your original use of the image as an avatar and the argument your attempting to make now.



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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby bedub1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:54 pm

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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:28 pm

bedub1 wrote:Do we avoid teaching history in school to avoid making students uncomfortable? Shall we purge these items from our Museums? When the History Channel plays it's shows, shall we blur out the images? I agree we should not glorify them, and I would never set one as my avatar/signature, but to attempt to ignore them seems a little over the top.


I suppose not but as far as CC is concerned it boils down to consideration and general consensus. I tend to think of Conquer Club as just that: a club. If someone joins a tennis club, softball club, etc., there is the understanding that said club has social boundaries and straying too far from these could wind up getting you into trouble with the management.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:23 am

bedub1 wrote:Do we avoid teaching history in school to avoid making students uncomfortable? Shall we purge these items from our Museums? When the History Channel plays it's shows, shall we blur out the images? I agree we should not glorify them, and I would never set one as my avatar/signature, but to attempt to ignore them seems a little over the top.

If Conquer Club was an online Museum of History Channel, I think you'd have a point. But we're a social gaming club and some things will likely always be off limits.


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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby MrBenn on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:18 pm

qwert wrote:because i have open mind
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Postby 2dimes on Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:53 pm

qwert wrote:because i have open mind

You know who else had an open mind about swastikas...


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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby bedub1 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:53 pm

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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:00 pm

Zing, bop, slam dunk! ;)


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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby chaosfactor on Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:46 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Zing, bop, slam dunk! ;)


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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby Gillipig on Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:19 am

I don't like censorship in any way. So of course I'm against censoring a damn symbol. What's worse though is that male nipples are counted as nudity on here. Let me tell you, there's not a single country, however strict and old fashion it is, that considers male nipples to be nudity! But for some reason this silly site does. Unbefuckingleavable
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:09 am

Gillipig wrote:I don't like censorship in any way. So of course I'm against censoring a damn symbol. What's worse though is that male nipples are counted as nudity on here. Let me tell you, there's not a single country, however strict and old fashion it is, that considers male nipples to be nudity! But for some reason this silly site does. Unbefuckingleavable

If I recall correctly, male nipples are not nudity on CC. There is a whole topic with HOT+SEXY+MEN in the Off Topics. I think the line was drawn for "unambiguous nipples," as erotic as that sounds. I.E. if a moderator cannot tell, since the picture is cropped and it could go either way, that sort of image is prohibited.


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