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Commander9 wrote:II) Granted, Kanin seems to have behaved rather oddly and I'm not completely sure of his logics behind some actions in the previous day, BUT I can confirm that at according to his abilities, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that he would be mafia or scum. Survivor/town are both possible. As of now, I believe that's enough.
Rodion wrote:After Saf's last post, captive minds list is:
N1 - Lovo + PCM + ??? (not sure whether there was a 3rd captive mind or not)
N2 - Saf + PCM + Rodion
N3 - Saf + Edoc
@KaninCommander9 wrote:II) Granted, Kanin seems to have behaved rather oddly and I'm not completely sure of his logics behind some actions in the previous day, BUT I can confirm that at according to his abilities, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that he would be mafia or scum. Survivor/town are both possible. As of now, I believe that's enough.
I was asking Hippo if he had caught Nendreel in a lie. Now you're confirming it did happen. Care to provide evidence? And, like spiesr said, please make it a straight answer before people derp into prematurely ending the day (assuming it did not already happen).
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Rodion wrote:You seem to want to sweep weird things under the rug too quickly.
We have 2 players showing issue with Nendreel, one of them claiming that he has lied (Vodean), while the other has merely suggested it (Hippo). Where there are lies, there are usually anti-town win conditions around (remember LAL?), and no matter how you slice it one of these 3 HAS to be a suspect. I just don't yet know which one, hence the questions.
Regarding your last sentence, Nendreel cannot be a scum target while scum thinks he has a decent shot at getting lynched (scum uses NKs to kill townies that are harder to mislynch), and if "A" says "B" lied, you don't waste your NK on that "B". That's pretty much the same logic on why I said you would not be N1 recruited, which you seemed to agree with.
Also, Commander never said Nendreel is town. Did you mean Kanin?
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pancakemix wrote:They can work together if he asks about a mechanic that wouldn't apply to him or doesn't use said mechanic.
He cannot be part of Commander's group because he was a captive mind.
Rodion wrote:I don't know whether the failed possession on Strike made one of them powerless for the day or whether they got to keep their previous body (which would explain someone still inhabiting Saf). Depending on the mechanics, the N3 ??? can be a failed attempt on Strike Wolf or an unknown player.
I guessed alien because /'s PM releasing me from being a captive mind mentioned an alien city.
Guys, if Ghostly has not yet been hammered, could you please not rush the lynch? There are a lot of things that should be discussed. We don't want people dying N4 without releasing valuable information because some people rushed the hammer. Examples of things I'd like to discuss today are:
1 - Did Hippo catch Nendreel lying?
2 - If Vodean knew Ghostly's alignment due to his night action, how come didn't Vodean vote Ghostly? The no vote actually made me think Vodean was guessing/deducting Ghostly's WC, as someone with clear evidence of a lie would have posted something like this:
"My NA revealed Ghostly's WC is not survivor (he has to kill whatever in order to win). Ghostly lied. LAL. Vote Ghostly."
In the end, Ghostly confessed and everything is going to end up well, but I still want to understand if Vodean used a NA in order to catch Ghostly and, if so, why didn't he vote Ghostly in his last post.
3 - The end of Vodean's PR also bugs me. He went insane for asking a mid-tier question (track) and then got cured after asking the riskiest one (cop)? Wasn't his PR permanent, unlike Jonty's?
4 - How did Commander know Kanin's abilities if his mind was never captured?
Rodion wrote:I don't think that would be appropriate. I'd rather see them (Hippo/Vodean) making their accusations in a clear manner first and you claiming after that (if needed) than seeing you claim to rebuke accusations that are poorly formulated/explained as of now.
Rodion wrote:Saf/PCM: answer to that thing we've been discussing is C. I thought one of you had the answer because I hadn't. It turns out / corrected a PM he had sent me and I was the one with the answer to that particular doubt.
Rodion wrote:We were talking about who your 2 buddies were. We know. =]
I decided not to out them because I'd rather see you keep feeding us info about possible anti-town players.
This info was revealed to you as a side effect of you being captive? Because we can already deduce as much from him being captive on Day 3.pancakemix wrote:Before night falls: Rodion didn't target anyone last night. I learned this from my captive state.
spiesr wrote:This info was revealed to you as a side effect of you being captive? Because we can already deduce as much from him being captive on Day 3.pancakemix wrote:Before night falls: Rodion didn't target anyone last night. I learned this from my captive state.
Rodion wrote:My suspicions are that Saf got no info as he was not released from his captive status (the info I got was from the same message that stated I was "free"). It seems, however, that no PM ever mentioned who had captured you, PCM?
I got no 1-shot powers.
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