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notyou2 wrote:Night Strike wrote:bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.
The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.
Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?
And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.
How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?
How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???
Night Strike wrote:notyou2 wrote:Night Strike wrote:bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.
The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.
Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?
And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.
How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?
How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???
Considering I don't believe he was born in another country, what other false premises do you have to base YOUR beliefs on?
notyou2 wrote:Night Strike wrote:notyou2 wrote:Night Strike wrote:bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.
The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.
Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?
And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.
How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?
How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???
Considering I don't believe he was born in another country, what other false premises do you have to base YOUR beliefs on?
Really? You weren't one of the birthers from 4 years back?
notyou2 wrote:Where did you get the part about "desires to fundamentally transform the US"? Reference please.
Phatscotty wrote:
notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like a black man as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.
chang50 wrote:As shallow as generations of slave owners in your country..
Night Strike wrote:None of us today are responsible for the actions that took place then, yet the people who continue to blame every disagreement with Obama as being due to race are completely responsible for their own racist views.
Maugena wrote:Phatscotty wrote:
I was expecting him to be pro-secession. I got him pegged wrong.
In fact, I actually agree with what he's saying. It is idiocy. Channel your frustration in a more productive manner.
A stunt like this is pointless.
It's also pretty funny to note that they seem to think they're being courageous and Beck is being a coward.
I don't follow their delusional train of thought in the slightest.notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like a black man as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.
Black is the politically correct term. Not African American. You had it in the first sentence, not sure why not the second.
Just a general statement here, but anyone that disagrees: What should we call you? British American? German American? You probably don't do that for whites, so why do that for blacks?chang50 wrote:As shallow as generations of slave owners in your country..
Slavery has been a part of every culture and still is, unfortunately.
Night Strike wrote:notyou2 wrote:Night Strike wrote:notyou2 wrote:Night Strike wrote:bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.
The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.
Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?
And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.
How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?
How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???
Considering I don't believe he was born in another country, what other false premises do you have to base YOUR beliefs on?
Really? You weren't one of the birthers from 4 years back?
No. I believe he should have shown his birth certificate, just like he should have shown all the other past records that he has refused to show, but that doesn't mean I believe he was born elsewhere. He did however spend a lot of his young years in Indonesia as well as learning about an idealized father who hated capitalism (under the guise of hating colonialism), which is why he grew up having desires of "fundamentally transforming" the US.
GreecePwns wrote:I say let 'em go. Why should anyone force them to be a part of the country?
Besides, the breakup of America has many drastic foreign policy implications which can only be good for world peace.
greenoaks wrote:ok, back on topic
i remember hearing in a show about Texas how they were a separate country & they chose to join the US. however there is nothing in the Constitution that would allow them to leave, let alone any other state.
is this true?
Night Strike wrote:Theoretically, all a state would have to do is vote to withdraw its consent to be governed by the federal government and to un-ratify the Constitution. The states formed the federal government; the federal government did NOT form the states.
Night Strike wrote:No. I believe he should have shown his birth certificate, just like he should have shown all the other past records that he has refused to show, but that doesn't mean I believe he was born elsewhere. He did however spend a lot of his young years in Indonesia as well as learning about an idealized father who hated capitalism (under the guise of hating colonialism), which is why he grew up having desires of "fundamentally transforming" the US.
Metsfanmax wrote:Night Strike wrote:Theoretically, all a state would have to do is vote to withdraw its consent to be governed by the federal government and to un-ratify the Constitution. The states formed the federal government; the federal government did NOT form the states.
Texas tried that once. It did not work out so well for them.
stahrgazer wrote:A group of states tried it too... a REPUBLICAN refused them the "right" to secede.
Metsfanmax wrote:stahrgazer wrote:A group of states tried it too... a REPUBLICAN refused them the "right" to secede.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
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