TLO 2012 IV [Winners: Harem Kings]

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:08 pm

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Master Fenrir on Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:40 pm

Lindax wrote:Similar, for the MVTM, forfeited games do not count towards the points players contributed to their teams. Only games one actually played and won will count.

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Hmm, but have you considered the intimidation factor? Some of us are so scary that people just don't want to join games against us. Isn't that valuable?

(Totally just messing with you, Lx. I get it.)
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Lindax on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:22 pm

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby agentcom on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:11 am

I'm assuming that with the MVTM, you're asking for gross not net point totals, right? Also, anyone have any idea what is good? I'm not going to bother calculating this for our team if there are players with like 100 or more gross.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:45 am

agentcom wrote:I'm assuming that with the MVTM, you're asking for gross not net point totals, right? Also, anyone have any idea what is good? I'm not going to bother calculating this for our team if there are players with like 100 or more gross.


Gross, as in all the point you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.

Yes, there are players with 100+ points.

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:30 pm

When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby josko.ri on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:33 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:37 pm

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Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.


How do you know this? I don't believe this to be true. Look at Lindax's last post:

Gross, as in all the points you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby josko.ri on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:43 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.


How do you know this? I don't believe this to be true. Look at Lindax's last post:

Gross, as in all the points you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.

I read it in the first post of the tournament there are explained difference between the 2 awards
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:13 pm

josko.ri wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.


How do you know this? I don't believe this to be true. Look at Lindax's last post:

Gross, as in all the points you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.

I read it in the first post of the tournament there are explained difference between the 2 awards


Can you quote from the first post of the tournament where it shows the calculation that will be used? You have said "Best winning percentage" I would like to know where it says that.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Master Fenrir on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:32 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Can you quote from the first post of the tournament where it shows the calculation that will be used? You have said "Best winning percentage" I would like to know where it says that.

Lindax wrote:How to Become MVP
show: how the mvp will be decided


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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby josko.ri on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:43 pm

I think Master Fenrir will be MVTM by quick looking. can he post his total score, so it can be merit for others. if someone is found to have more score than him, then he/she may post.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:33 am

Thanks for posting that. Dunno why I didn't see it on any of the occasions I looked at those tabs.

So MVP = highest win % for the player who played the minimum 45 games (inc 2S, 2D, 2T & 2Q)

MVTM = highest points contribution to the team (even if that same player could potentially have also lost the most points for the team!) inc 2S, 2D, 2T & 2Q.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Master Fenrir on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:51 am

josko.ri wrote:I think Master Fenrir will be MVTM by quick looking. can he post his total score, so it can be merit for others. if someone is found to have more score than him, then he/she may post.


I just got done compiling the stats for my team. I have three active games, but if those finish as I expect they will, my record will be 40 wins, 22 losses. I have 110 total points thus far, likely to finish with 114. For CoF's benefit, it's a +56 point differential. I wasn't demanding game slots, but we only had HardAttack for the first 4 rounds and I had to compensate for being a man down for the rest of the tournament. I asked everybody on my team which games they wanted, and filled up the rest only after they were first assigned to the games they said they wanted. You can ask them.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 am

josko.ri wrote:I think Master Fenrir will be MVTM by quick looking. can he post his total score, so it can be merit for others. if someone is found to have more score than him, then he/she may post.


Master Fenrir: Plyd 62, Won 39, Lost 20, Ongoing 3. Pts won 110, Pts lost 53. Current win % = 66.10% (Best possible win % = 67.74%)
josko.ri : Plyd 47, Won 30, Lost 17. Pts won 82, Pts lost 44. Win % = 63.83%
Denise : Plyd 52, Won 35, Lost 16, Ongoing 1. Pts won 92, Pts lost 44. Current win % = 68.63% (Best possible win % = 69.23%)
CoF : Plyd 46, Won 32, Lost 11, Ongoing 3. Pts won 85, Pts lost 31. Current win % = 74.42% (Worst poss = 69.56%)

So Fen looks like being the front runner for MVTM if it's solely based on overall points won (110pts so far). MVP could be me (yay!) based on Win %, though I'm not familiar with all the others' scores and who else might be in the running.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Lindax on Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:47 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:
josko.ri wrote:I think Master Fenrir will be MVTM by quick looking. can he post his total score, so it can be merit for others. if someone is found to have more score than him, then he/she may post.


Master Fenrir: Plyd 62, Won 39, Lost 20, Ongoing 3. Pts won 110, Pts lost 53. Current win % = 66.10% (Best possible win % = 67.74%)
josko.ri : Plyd 47, Won 30, Lost 17. Pts won 82, Pts lost 44. Win % = 63.83%
Denise : Plyd 52, Won 35, Lost 16, Ongoing 1. Pts won 92, Pts lost 44. Current win % = 68.63% (Best possible win % = 69.23%)
CoF : Plyd 46, Won 32, Lost 11, Ongoing 3. Pts won 85, Pts lost 31. Current win % = 74.42% (Worst poss = 69.56%)

So Fen looks like being the front runner for MVTM if it's solely based on overall points won (110pts so far). MVP could be me (yay!) based on Win %, though I'm not familiar with all the others' scores and who else might be in the running.


Glad you guys finally figured out the difference between MVP and MVTM! :D

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The player must have: Followed the tournament rules and Conquer Club rules and/or guidelines for the duration of this tournament. ;)

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:11 am

All our games have now completed:

Round 15 vs Agents
Game 11871401 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Dako
Game 11871402 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - krikee
Game 11871404 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - catnipdreams/krikee
Game 11871406 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot of Fire/catnipdreams
Game 11871407 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot of Fire/Denise
Game 11871408 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Pedronicus/Denise

Game 11871409 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot/catnipdreams/krikee
Game 11871410 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Pedronicus/Chariot/Denise
Game 11871411 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot/krikee/Pedro/Denise
Score TOFU 13 Agents 7

Valiant effort team, especially in respect of total points scored. Hearty congrats to the Harem Kings, worthy overall winners =D>

And thank you Rob for staging another excellent edition of the TLO =D>
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Lindax on Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:34 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:All our games have now completed:

Round 15 vs Agents
Game 11871401 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Dako
Game 11871402 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - krikee
Game 11871404 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - catnipdreams/krikee
Game 11871406 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot of Fire/catnipdreams
Game 11871407 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot of Fire/Denise
Game 11871408 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Pedronicus/Denise

Game 11871409 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot/catnipdreams/krikee
Game 11871410 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Pedronicus/Chariot/Denise
Game 11871411 (Auto-Join Game on Team 1) - Chariot/krikee/Pedro/Denise
Score TOFU 13 Agents 7

Valiant effort team, especially in respect of total points scored. Hearty congrats to the Harem Kings, worthy overall winners =D>

And thank you Rob for staging another excellent edition of the TLO =D>


Thanks Si. Not making the results official yet, there are still a couple of games ongoing.

Happy with my team. We always ended with the last 4, now we're 7th with the same amount of wins as number 6, they have only 4 points more than us. And we're only 1 win behind your team Si! Well done team!

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby nippersean on Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:14 pm

So when are the results out?
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Lindax on Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:52 pm

nippersean wrote:So when are the results out?


I'll publish the final standings after all games have finished.

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Denise on Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:55 pm

Lindax wrote:
nippersean wrote:So when are the results out?


I'll publish the final standings after all games have finished.

Lx


Including this one? Game 11788067 That could take a while..
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Lindax on Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:36 am

Denise wrote:
Lindax wrote:
nippersean wrote:So when are the results out?


I'll publish the final standings after all games have finished.

Lx


Including this one? Game 11788067 That could take a while..


That game has no bearing on the final standings anymore. As a matter of fact, there is only one other game still ongoing now, which also has no effect on the final standings. So, I'll publish them today or tomorrow.

MVP and MVTM will need to wait a bit longer.

Lx
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Lindax on Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:55 pm

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Round 15 is decided, there is only one game still ongoing. The game rosters and results have been updated.

I have also posted the final standings, which means we have a winner: Congratulations to the Harem Kings! =D>

1.- Harem Kings
2.- King Arthur's Bovine
3.- TOFUkingood
4.- Mythers
5.- Beef Leftovers
6.- Agents
7.- As usual
8.- The Reds
9.- lazy and drunk
10.- TebowJet
11.- DYNASTY
12.- TNC
13.- Tutti Frutti
14.- Memento Mori
15.- The Warriors
16.- Team Sweden (DQ)

For the complete Results & Standings:
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The Harem Kings are:

Master Fenrir (Team Captain)
Nippersean
L M S
Iron Maid
Deli
danryan (Will not get a medal unfortunately, played only 2 games).

I will post the winners of the MVP and MVTM medals as soon as I have those final results.

Lx


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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby merch313 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:06 pm

Congrats HK's =D>
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby xman5151 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:09 pm

Congrats Harlem Kings!

Thanks for hosting this Lindax! This was my first TLO tournament and I very much enjoyed it. Played in many great games and had a ton of fun, well done and thank you! :)
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