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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby agentcom on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:06 pm

greenoaks wrote:if this is implemented i will stop organising tournaments.

i will not put the effort into running any more tourneys, however poorly it may be so some players can decide if my effort was up to their standard.

i put in all the effort, the tournament finished and a winner was declared. if you don't like how i ran it dont join any more.


I would think that part of the point of this would be to draw more people to your tournaments because you are a good TO.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:02 pm

agentcom wrote:
greenoaks wrote:if this is implemented i will stop organising tournaments.

i will not put the effort into running any more tourneys, however poorly it may be so some players can decide if my effort was up to their standard.

i put in all the effort, the tournament finished and a winner was declared. if you don't like how i ran it dont join any more.


I would think that part of the point of this would be to draw more people to your tournaments because you are a good TO.


But you already know that because you've been in his tournaments in the past. I join tournaments if they sound fun, are on maps I like, or just looking for a few extra games. I will likely not look to see the TO's ratings to see whether or not I should join.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:09 pm

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patrickaa317 wrote:Is this a FALLEN only thread?

I posted it in our clan forum section, asking opinions... that's why majority of the players that replied are from FALLEN, hopefully this will be only in the beginning :)

patrickaa317 wrote:It is a great theory but I don't think it'll really add anything.

Look at my proposal this way: I have participated in 1 of your tournaments and your tournament is light years ahead from some others that I currently participate in. And the medal you receive has the same value as the medal that others will receive for tournaments that can not be compared. Reason enough for me to continue to work on my suggestion.


I get where you are coming from with this suggestion, I think the theory is really great but if there are TO's that you don't like how they are running the tourney, request they replace you and then you don't have to worry about it. If you don't want to get replaced, then obviously you don't mind playing in a poorly ran tournament which makes the ratings system irrelevant.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:39 pm

Seems like this would be used/appreciated by a pretty small percentage of players.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:45 pm

greenoaks wrote:if this is implemented i will stop organising tournaments.

i will not put the effort into running any more tourneys, however poorly it may be so some players can decide if my effort was up to their standard.

i put in all the effort, the tournament finished and a winner was declared. if you don't like how i ran it dont join any more.

You've got a good reputation, and you know that and we know that. But someone who is just starting to dip his feet into the tournament world doesn't know that yet. Why shouldn't there be a way for him to find out?
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby chapcrap on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:23 am

I still support something like this.

Here is a very similar suggestion: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=155893
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Re: tournament organizer rating

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:26 am

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ubcman64 wrote:what i'd rather see than a rating system (since the current system is of almost no value imho) is more of an informational listing of TO's. a listing that would give all their stats such as tournaments started and finished. whether the have any abandoned tournaments. types of tournaments run, size of tournament, length of time to complete, and so on.
i think seeing this type of information would help a person determine if they want to participate in a particular TO's tournament, better than any rating system would do. think of it as CC's version of the Better Business Bureau, without the grading. my 2 cents. :D


The first half of those things are already in the Tournament Database and the second half are already suggestions for future updates of the database.

It's not in an easily searchable form -- at least not for the player. I assume you have better tools for searching the database among the TDs, but that doesn't do anything to help the players evaluate things.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:28 am

chapcrap wrote:I still support something like this.

Here is a very similar suggestion: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 1&t=155893

Considering the poll on that was 29-2, I don't know why that was allowed to die.

And yeah, essentially the same proposal.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby patrickaa317 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:36 am

Apparently I originally loved the idea. With that kind of flip flop, I should be running for public office!
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:14 am

This is not a bad suggestion and should/could be implemented. Why not just have the ratings on the organisers hall of fame page next to completed tournies.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby DeluxeHazard on Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:18 am

Not to be mean but I don't really like the suggestion. This could discourage people and they may stop making tournaments. I wouldn't create anymore tournaments if there was a possibility of not even getting a medal.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby greenoaks on Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:28 am

DeluxeHazard wrote:Not to be mean but I don't really like the suggestion. This could discourage people and they may stop making tournaments. I wouldn't create anymore tournaments if there was a possibility of not even getting a medal.

that's right, if mid way through a tournament things happen and it gets neglected there is no incentive to finish it off as the players are likely to vote you were crap.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:36 am

greenoaks wrote:
DeluxeHazard wrote:Not to be mean but I don't really like the suggestion. This could discourage people and they may stop making tournaments. I wouldn't create anymore tournaments if there was a possibility of not even getting a medal.

that's right, if mid way through a tournament things happen and it gets neglected there is no incentive to finish it off as the players are likely to vote you were crap.

And a quick PM to players explaining does nothing. Some players will just be bloody minded and rate you for that two week holiday you had. :P
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby Night Strike on Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:02 am

Most tournaments are bracket tournaments where half the participants are eliminated in the first round. Especially depending on the size of the tournament (larger tournaments would take longer), why should half the participants be allowed to rate an entire tournament when they only participated in 1 round of it?

As for the tournament set-up criteria: if people don't like the way the tournament is set-up, why are they joining it in the first place? The only way this criterion would be valid is if the organizer made a mistake and had to change the set-up in the middle of the tournament, otherwise, if a player joined the tournament, then they agreed that the set-up is good enough to play.
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Re: Add Rating For Tournament

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:24 am

greenoaks wrote:
DeluxeHazard wrote:Not to be mean but I don't really like the suggestion. This could discourage people and they may stop making tournaments. I wouldn't create anymore tournaments if there was a possibility of not even getting a medal.

that's right, if mid way through a tournament things happen and it gets neglected there is no incentive to finish it off as the players are likely to vote you were crap.

I don't honestly believe most people would give you a bad rating because you had to take a break. I think, just like player ratings, that the opposite will be true: most people will give you five stars regardless of how much you suck. So, just like player ratings, a really good TO will have a 4.8 average, while a really bad TO will have a 4.6. Again, just like player ratings, people will learn to gravitate toward the 4.8s and steer clear of the 4.6s.
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