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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby Domicas on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:49 am

My suggestion is that when a suggestion is made, the suggester should suggest his suggestion in a straightforward manner and the suggestee should consider if the suggestion was worth suggesting in the first place. If said suggestion suggests a worthy suggestion for how to improve the thread for suggestions on how to improve the suggestion process, then I would suggest that the suggestion in question has merit and is a worthwhile suggestion. If the aim of the suggestion is not an actual suggestion concerning how to improve the thread for suggestions on how to improve the suggestion process, then I would suggest that the suggestion has been posted in the wrong suggestion thread.

In other words, if the object of a suggestion suggests a suggestion suggesting suggestions worthy of a thread targeted at improving the thread for suggestions on how to improve the suggestion process, then suggesting said suggestion in the proper suggestion thread suggests that the suggester takes seriously his quest to suggest a worthwhile suggestion. Others might disagree...

Also, I suggest people make an effort to be clear in their attempts to communicate. People who write in a style that suggests they may be mentally impaired make it hard for the rest of us to figure out what the hell they're babbling on about.
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby Pedronicus on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:37 am

can suggestions please be placed into various folders / sub forums?

off the top of my head

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2. player suggestions
3. interface suggestions
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there are probably more, but I can't think of them right now .
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:13 am

Pedronicus wrote:can suggestions please be placed into various folders / sub forums?

off the top of my head

1. game suggestions
2. player suggestions
3. interface suggestions
4.

there are probably more, but I can't think of them right now .


This is something that has been discussed in the past, and I promise the idea hasn't been forgotten about. No promises about whether it will happen soon, though. The main problem is -- will the subforums justify their usage? If we split off into four subforums, I worry that they'll all die from inactivity.
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby greenoaks on Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:24 am

i dont think there are enough suggestions being made to require they be split into subforums.
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:51 am

Domicas wrote:My suggestion is that when a suggestion is made, the suggester should suggest his suggestion in a straightforward manner and the suggestee should consider if the suggestion was worth suggesting in the first place. If said suggestion suggests a worthy suggestion for how to improve the thread for suggestions on how to improve the suggestion process, then I would suggest that the suggestion in question has merit and is a worthwhile suggestion. If the aim of the suggestion is not an actual suggestion concerning how to improve the thread for suggestions on how to improve the suggestion process, then I would suggest that the suggestion has been posted in the wrong suggestion thread.

In other words, if the object of a suggestion suggests a suggestion suggesting suggestions worthy of a thread targeted at improving the thread for suggestions on how to improve the suggestion process, then suggesting said suggestion in the proper suggestion thread suggests that the suggester takes seriously his quest to suggest a worthwhile suggestion. Others might disagree...

Also, I suggest people make an effort to be clear in their attempts to communicate. People who write in a style that suggests they may be mentally impaired make it hard for the rest of us to figure out what the hell they're babbling on about.

This made me laugh quietly to myself.
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:02 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:can suggestions please be placed into various folders / sub forums?

off the top of my head

1. game suggestions
2. player suggestions
3. interface suggestions
4.

there are probably more, but I can't think of them right now .


This is something that has been discussed in the past, and I promise the idea hasn't been forgotten about. No promises about whether it will happen soon, though. The main problem is -- will the subforums justify their usage? If we split off into four subforums, I worry that they'll all die from inactivity.


Perhaps Topic Icons can be used similar to the Foundry and Create/Join Tourney pages... That'll keep them all in the same forum but will allow for someone to easily pick out the different types of suggestions.
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:10 am

patrickaa317 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:can suggestions please be placed into various folders / sub forums?

off the top of my head

1. game suggestions
2. player suggestions
3. interface suggestions
4.

there are probably more, but I can't think of them right now .


This is something that has been discussed in the past, and I promise the idea hasn't been forgotten about. No promises about whether it will happen soon, though. The main problem is -- will the subforums justify their usage? If we split off into four subforums, I worry that they'll all die from inactivity.


Perhaps Topic Icons can be used similar to the Foundry and Create/Join Tourney pages... That'll keep them all in the same forum but will allow for someone to easily pick out the different types of suggestions.


Yes, that's something we've been discussing recently. It's the solution I would like to see implemented; it just requires coordination with the webmaster and the tech team to see how easy it would be to implement for us. We'll be keeping in touch regarding this.
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby agentcom on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:20 am

Definitely under consideration. Metsfan and I have had a little bit of discussion on where we'd like to see this forum go. Btw, welcome to Metsfan to the team! I'm sure you've all seen him around doing all kinds of awesome stuff and he's been just as helpful behind the scenes as we try to figure out how to get some of your ideas IMPLEMENTED!
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby chapcrap on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:45 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:can suggestions please be placed into various folders / sub forums?

off the top of my head

1. game suggestions
2. player suggestions
3. interface suggestions
4.

there are probably more, but I can't think of them right now .


This is something that has been discussed in the past, and I promise the idea hasn't been forgotten about. No promises about whether it will happen soon, though. The main problem is -- will the subforums justify their usage? If we split off into four subforums, I worry that they'll all die from inactivity.


Perhaps Topic Icons can be used similar to the Foundry and Create/Join Tourney pages... That'll keep them all in the same forum but will allow for someone to easily pick out the different types of suggestions.


Yes, that's something we've been discussing recently. It's the solution I would like to see implemented; it just requires coordination with the webmaster and the tech team to see how easy it would be to implement for us. We'll be keeping in touch regarding this.

It takes about 3 minutes to implement I think...
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby rdsrds2120 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:43 pm

If the Suggestions Moderators feel that topic icons will help them do their job, then I'm all for them. :D.

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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby greenoaks on Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:10 am

they added nothing to Foundry or Tournaments, it's unlikely they'll add anything to here
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby agentcom on Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:22 am

greenoaks wrote:they added nothing to Foundry or Tournaments, it's unlikely they'll add anything to here


[Edit: I'm an idiot]
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby greenoaks on Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:34 am

agentcom wrote:
greenoaks wrote:they added nothing to Foundry or Tournaments, it's unlikely they'll add anything to here


Who is they? The new leadership? I've been seeing some signs of life for Suggestions that I hope continues. It's all been happening behind the scenes, though, so far.

My unenviable task has been to sit here and urge patience while everything develops and hope that I don't look like a fool if nothing ends up happening. But I have a cautious optimism that things are headed in the right direction.

There's never gonna be a time when we get new major updates every month, but more regular major updates should become more frequent. And the little, quick fixes, I believe, won't have to sit in Suggestions for a year (or more) before someone gets around to changing one line of code.

Also, the Foundry just got a couple of long-awaited and much deserved upgrades. I can't wait to see some maps that actually use them. And the tournament players/organizers will benefit from a lot of the improvements that benefit the site as a whole.

they = topic icons
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby agentcom on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:39 am

agentcom wrote:
greenoaks wrote:they added nothing to Foundry or Tournaments, it's unlikely they'll add anything to here


[Edit: I'm an idiot]


In that case, I have fixed my post. See above :oops: :lol:

I had forgotten that this turned in to a suggestion about topic icons. We talked about the topic icon idea the other day, we came to the same conclusion that they (they=topic icons) don't really do much for us. So, I don't think that's the route we'll be taking.
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Re: New Leadership and Improving Suggestions

Postby greenoaks on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:47 am

agentcom wrote:
agentcom wrote:
greenoaks wrote:they added nothing to Foundry or Tournaments, it's unlikely they'll add anything to here


[Edit: I'm an idiot]


In that case, I have fixed my post. See above :oops: :lol:

I had forgotten that this turned in to a suggestion about topic icons. We talked about the topic icon idea the other day, we came to the same conclusion that they (they=topic icons) don't really do much for us. So, I don't think that's the route we'll be taking.

awesome, i do have a suggestion for a better Suggs forum, i'll post it soon.
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