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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:08 pm

cairnswk wrote:
thenobodies80 wrote:...
If it was just needed a spreadsheet to do that we wouldn't need gameplay CAs ;)
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I know this is probably off-topic here...but why can't what the gameplay CAs do be placed into a spreadsheet...for bonuses like these?
Just asking! Is it too mathematically complicated?

If the CAs could outline in detail how they come up with values, then it could be put into a spreadsheet or other program, but I suspect they work as much by gut feelings as they do by a set of rules.

I am still waiting for a comment on my comment on the spreadsheet values. I agreed with some and proposed adjustments to others. Does anyone have a counter proposal?
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:12 pm

Since no one has come up with any other suggestions ender, let's get the XML done so we can check it, please?? O:)
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:45 am

Okay, I will try to wrap this up soon.

EDIT: I was about to work on this when I remembered that some of the bonuses had been simplified and thus the names had changed slightly. So I went to look at the map images to check, and they are all black (for me at least). I would like to see what I am working on before spending any more time on this.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby tkr4lf on Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:52 am

Is this one getting close to Beta?
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:03 pm

Well, it could get XML checked if I submitted a new file, but see my previous post.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:23 pm

the large is in the first post, the small....honeslty i don't remember if I have it somewhere or if I have to do it.
Will look into it tomorrow. ;)
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:30 pm

Okay, since we had no counter-proposals to my bonus structure, I think we can go with it at least for now. I summarize:
  • Duchy of Estonia: 2
  • Bishopric of Osel-Wiek & Dago: 2
  • Papal Legatus: 2
  • Sword Brethren: 4
  • Terra Mariana: Papal Legatus: 2 + Sword Brethren: 4 + 2 = 8 total
  • Courland: 2
  • Duchy of Samogitia: 1
  • East Prussia: 3
  • Teutonic Order: 2
  • Order State: East Prussia: 3 + Teutonic Order: 2 + 1 = 6 total
  • Duchy of Pomeralia: 1
  • Gotland: 1
    • Visby-Danzig route: +2
    • Visby-Konigsberg route: +2
    • Visby-Reval route: +2
  • Castles of Teutonic Knights: +1 for 3, +2 for 4
  • Castles of Brothers of the Sword: +1 for 3, +2 for 4
  • Hanseatic Cities: +1 for every 3
  • Autodeploys: Castles: +3; Hanseatic Cities: +1; Towns: +1; Ships: -1 (that is, decay)
  • Reinforcements for holding territories in general: +1 for every 3, minimum +3 (standard scheme)

I will try to update the XML this weekend.

Now as far as the small map goes, the last time I fixed the small coordinates (and I hope it really is the last time) I was working against http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.4s.png
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I hope that there are no coordinate changes since then.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:47 am

No, the correct bonus structure is the one on the big, we can change values but the bonus structure is this one:

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:50 pm

Oh, I understand that the bonus structure has changed. My summary above is based on that.

I hope to put up the next version of the XML within 48 to 72 hours. It's a busy weekend with back-to-school and such.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:00 pm

Forgive the double post, but I thought it the surest way to get noticed:

Here is the new XML with the revised continents and the bonus values I outlined above:

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby tkr4lf on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:08 am

So, any new on this one?

I'm excited to play this...
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:44 am

I think we may be waiting for a small map with all the latest changes, and possibly some changes to the large map to reflect the bonuses I put into the latest XML.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby tkr4lf on Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:21 pm

That makes me sad. :(
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby tkr4lf on Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:25 pm

One thing I just noticed.

This probably isn't a big deal, but it's a pretty easy fix, so, whatever. Just thought I'd point this out.


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In the legend, under the section for Castles, it says that Castles are river crosses. A better way to say that might be Castles are river crossings. Like I said, not a big deal. I'm sure people will know what it means either way, just that river crossings sounds a bit better than river crosses. Up to you guys, though.

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby ender516 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:22 pm

I agree with you on that "crossings" vs. "crosses" wording. I think it was raised before, but that might have been when theBastard was doing the artwork. Anyway, it may have just been forgotten, but it could get fixed now. If it isn't, I bet it will be raised during Beta.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:34 pm

Throwing in same late agreement with ender.


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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:06 pm

I think you have to move some coords for the small version.Changed the map accordingly what you listed above.

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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:58 pm

ender, it seems to me you're a bit busy recently....do you want i change the coords for you?

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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby ender516 on Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:32 pm

Sorry to be so slow on this.
Here is the newest version of the XML.

Baltic_Crusades_1.19.xml

I actually made more changes to coordinates on the large map than the small. (I started using PixelZoomer to examine the placement of the numbers on the ovals.) On an unrelated note, I don't know why the Map Inspect feature of the Map Maker tool makes some numbers show up in #CCCCCC colour when I specified #FFFFFF for all players, but here are some samples for checking placements.

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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:33 pm

The XML looks good. Are the army circles not going onto the small map?
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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby ender516 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:10 am

nolefan5311 wrote:The XML looks good. Are the army circles not going onto the small map?

In a word, no.

I believe thenobodies80 decided to omit them some time ago. At this point, I don't want to see them as it would just mean more coordinate-diddling for me.
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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby nolefan5311 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:02 pm

ender516 wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:The XML looks good. Are the army circles not going onto the small map?

In a word, no.

I believe thenobodies80 decided to omit them some time ago. At this point, I don't want to see them as it would just mean more coordinate-diddling for me.


Ok.

We'll go ahead and rebrand this one with the stamp. Beta play up next!!

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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby ender516 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:24 pm

Wahoo!
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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:38 pm

thanks. :D

and yes no circles on the small, they look ugly on it. ;)
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Re: Baltic Crusades [Update - 13 Oct.]

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:48 pm

About bloody time we got to play. So when can we?
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