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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:47 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:
greenoaks wrote:we dont need more maps


Or maybe we need only to start to make a different type of maps (e.g. Done to fit particular types of games) and start to cut the ones nobody play.

Anyway i think we're going off topic :P


I think you're right. ;)

Another option I thought of was to not just have the maps for sale through the site as a finished product but to have a download option that splits the map up into several 8X12 pieces. The download could be a nominal cost and the person who buys the image does all the work (taping, laminating, etc.). This was my thought in the beginning but now that we have discussed it further I would much rather have one already made by a professional. It depends on the individual though I suppose. Some people would rather do the work to save some money while others would rather pay for a nice finished product.
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:46 pm

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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:53 pm

koontz1973 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=181930

Enjoy. ;)



That's pretty freakin' cool.

Thanks, koontz!
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby chapcrap on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:28 am

This has been a great idea for years: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=42423
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:16 pm

chapcrap wrote:This has been a great idea for years: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=42423


So I have been thinking about this and wouldn't it be more expedient to just do my original idea which was to have the option to download(for a fee?) a multiple page map image that you print out on your own computer? Having the site have to find all the necessary subcontractors to produce finished, marketable maps seems like it would delay the process quite a bit.
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:31 pm

I have been looking into this just for some amusement (I lead a dull life sometimes and have a need to fill it with mindless trivia). Spoke to a local printer and to do a run of 100 maps at a good size and quality on a game board would cost a lot of money. It comes down with more but I doubt more would sell of any particular map. On top of that, counters, dice, rules booklet need to be produced. This all comes to around to more than I have. :lol:

So the site has 2 choices. Allow map makers to sell the maps or give them away for free on the site.

or

Go to one of the trade shows and try to get one of the major companies to set up the game and give CC part of the profit.
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby agentcom on Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:58 pm

What was the price?
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:53 pm

Will go and find the figures later but it worked out excessively expensive for a small run which most of the maps would have to be.
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby agentcom on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:06 pm

At my university, for $10 I can print a 4'x9' (1.2 m x 2.7 m) glossy, photo-quality image. That's 36 sq. ft. (3.3 sq. m). That's big enough for probably a few maps. Then add in a bit of money to buy some foam board or whatever to glue that "poster" on to. That's if I was doing this myself. I would think that you could make these for commercial purposes for maybe $5 / map. Charge $10 and throw in some cards and you've got yourself a business.
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:25 pm

The problem is with print quality. I can guarantee that after a year or two, the map printed like that would start to fade. Leave it on a table for a week if you are playing a large game, by a window and you will see a noticeable difference.

This is the biggest problem. How to get a board made of good enough quality that players will buy it, but not so expensive so as players say no to it. I printed up my map on A2 card to see how it would look and is it big enough to play on. That cost me 350 forints. A grand total of $1.62. But after 1 game, the board had a couple of scuffs on it. Would you pay, say 10 dollars for a good board to have that after 1 game?
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby skychaser on Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:48 am

This is very nice idea.

As of today there's lots of large printers available from guys who print it at some cities, its great.
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:03 pm

koontz1973 wrote:The problem is with print quality. I can guarantee that after a year or two, the map printed like that would start to fade. Leave it on a table for a week if you are playing a large game, by a window and you will see a noticeable difference.

This is the biggest problem. How to get a board made of good enough quality that players will buy it, but not so expensive so as players say no to it. I printed up my map on A2 card to see how it would look and is it big enough to play on. That cost me 350 forints. A grand total of $1.62. But after 1 game, the board had a couple of scuffs on it. Would you pay, say 10 dollars for a good board to have that after 1 game?


I personally would want something at least as durable as the board game that already exists. Either that or laminated. You can't beat laminated. :)
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby agentcom on Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:56 pm

Funkyterrance beat me to it, but I was thinking that you could laminate the thing. I have no idea how much that costs. But even if it's a few dollars, that still means that I could do this personally for under about $10 per board. It wouldn't be as professional looking as an actual board game, but it would do the trick.
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:04 pm

agentcom wrote:Funkyterrance beat me to it, but I was thinking that you could laminate the thing. I have no idea how much that costs. But even if it's a few dollars, that still means that I could do this personally for under about $10 per board. It wouldn't be as professional looking as an actual board game, but it would do the trick.

Laminate would work fine for keeping the board clean and safe.

Problems to overcome.
  • Persuade map makers to reproduce maps.
  • Convince the site to allow us to make money of you lot. :lol:
  • Get players to buy the damn things in enough of a quantity to make it worth while.

How should the maps be done, through the foundry as it is done now, or have a completely separate section for this to be done in. Who would do it? Original map makers or someone new? Copyrights need to be addressed. I did my one and gave it to CC players to see if it could be done but also as I enjoy doing it. But I very much doubt you would get many to do it. And what about old maps where the map maker is no longer available to ask?
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Re: Large Printable Maps

Postby agentcom on Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:11 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
Problems to overcome.
  • Persuade map makers to reproduce maps.
I think we would just have to see who is willing. Maybe not every map would be available.
  • Convince the site to allow us to make money of you lot. :lol:
  • That's up to the powers that be, but I wouldn't think there would be too much of a problem with this. But I could be dead wrong. Figuring out whether and how to do this will probably hold this idea up for a long time.
  • Get players to buy the damn things in enough of a quantity to make it worth while.
  • If they could be produced cheaply enough, the quantity wouldn't matter so much. Higher quality ones, yeah, we'd have to probably significantly limit the options

    How should the maps be done, through the foundry as it is done now, or have a completely separate section for this to be done in. Who would do it?
    I think the mapmakers would do it. I was thinking about this whole thing as being relatively informal. Basically, whoever wanted to create HQ versions of their own maps could and the site would facilitate the transaction. The site could contract out for it or even one of the users could run a small business (probably not very profitable) getting these things to the print shop and out to the users. In the latter case, the site (maybe as simply as through the forum) would just kind of be a store front or advertiser of this option. Is that kind of what you all were picturing or were you thinking something more official?
    Original map makers or someone new? Copyrights need to be addressed.
    Absolutely. It's my understanding that the mapmakers only gave the site the rights to use the map for online game play. The mapmakers who aren't around anymore ... well, I think their maps are dead for the purposes of this idea.
    I did my one and gave it to CC players to see if it could be done but also as I enjoy doing it. But I very much doubt you would get many to do it. And what about old maps where the map maker is no longer available to ask?


    I think that you'd find a few mapmakers who either are willing to let someone else supersize their map or are willing to do it themselves. I think a lot of them would do it for free just like they do now. But if the site is going to charge more than what covers its expenses, I think that it's fair to send a little bit of that off to them. But again I'm not the one who gets to make that decision.
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