Anyone who really reads and studies the Bible with no bias or preconceived notions will realize that the creation of the earth 6,000 years ago was not the original creation of the earth but a recreation. Most so called "Christians," loose track because they assume that Genesis 1:1 is part of Genesis 1:2 and beyond. And I know that doctrine of a young 6,000 year old earth and how they mix up the words "and it was all Good" and conclude that all must include the universe because of Genesis 1:1, and also how the Sun was "Created" in the 4th day and all of that is explain in the pages of the Bible for serious studiers of the word but I don't subscribe to a young earth because the Bible gives indication that the earth is ancient and old and not 6,000 years young.
We need to keep in mind that man put the chapter and verses there. A Catholic Jesuit Monk in some monastery somewhere just sat down and began numbering the Bible verses and creating the chapters. But the Bible was not written that way. Genesis 1:1 stands alone as a statement of fact. Revealed knowledge that man can have no other way.
In fact if you have an open mind I will show you something right now for you to consider. In Genesis 1:2 it reads...
"And the earth was without form, and void..."
That word "was" is in the original Hebrew "Hayah" and it can be used in several different ways. It is Strong's Bible Concordance word 1961. It is basically a Verb and as we know a Verb is an Action word and not a descriptive word.
The way it was translated in 1600AD. was the best to their understanding but the majority of the time that word "was" (Hayah) is not used to relay a condition but an event.
1) to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
a) to happen, fall out, occur, take place, come about, come to pass
b) to come about, come to pass
2) to come into being, become
a) to arise, appear, come
b) to become
1) to become
2) to become like
3) to be instituted, be established
3) to be
a) to exist, be in existence
b) to abide, remain, continue (with word of place or time)
c) to stand, lie, be in, be at, be situated (with word of locality)
d) to accompany, be with...
There is more but I think you get the gist. So instead of the verse reading...
"And the earth was without form, and void..."
It should read...
"And the earth "became" without form, and void..."
So right there you have a clue that the earth was not created in Genesis 1:2 but was already here because if the earth was created in Genesis 1:2 then how did the earth "Become" and from what and where did the earth become from? The earth was created before Genesis 1:2 and After 1:1.
Hopefully you will understand what I just wrote.
So if the earth was already here and if the earth is ancient as the Bible indicates in other verses; in the Psalms and Job among others, then why could it not have life on it. Just not Modern man. Modern man is a modern creation made after the God kind 6,000 years ago. All other creations were made after their kind. But if they never existed before 6,000 years ago, then what "Kind" is the Bible referring to?
Can you answer me that?
"And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind
, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind
, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind
: and God saw that [it was] good."
Incidentally some teach that the word "Kind" means family as in the dog kind but that is just one use for the word. A word like most Hebrew words that have multiple uses. I mean this in the sense that when it reads "after their kind" it is reading "in accordance to their families or species." But another use is "type of." So grass was created after the type of grass that had already existed before the destruction of the earth which also caused mass extinctions. Including the grass "kind."
And an indication of this is the use of the word, "his" kind and not "their" kind. Their kind would tend to indicate species while his kind tends to indicate type of. So that a blade of grass is created after his kind/type of. Just in case you look this up and try and give me this as an answer.
betiko wrote:so if we are made "after god's kind" why do we have a coccyx? answer this simple question.
Why would we have a tale residius on our asses? why did god create us with that shit? why was "god" himself created with that shit if we were "created" after his kind?
Why do we have 5 toes per feet, when clearly they could be better designed?
If we are made after god's kind, how come our 5 senses suck that much compared to other animals?
Given how insignificant is our galaxy on the scale of the universe, do you think god would have that much time to spend on it, and create all those species? I mean our galaxy on the scale of the universe is so small that even an electron compared to our human scale would be huge. Not to mention how our planet is shit nothing on the scale of our galaxy. There is probably life out there on trillions of planets/moons, which %agewise would be absolutely nothing compared to the total amount of planets/moons existing. Do you really think we are special in the universe? How can a god so weak as the one described in the bible could have influence elsewhere than in the solar system?
You are asking all kinds of question that show how much you don't know. Unfortunately you don't want to learn because if you did you would find the answers for yourself. But I will explain what I meant by man being made after the God kind. First of all I said that and not the Bible. The Bible reads "Image and Likeness" of God.
All of creation, plants and animals, were created after their kind. If God had said the same thing about Man, 6,000 years ago, "Let us make man after his kind," then the only creature that would have been created would have been Neanderthal man, again. Modern man was created in the image of God and not after the man kind and this gave us a form of intelligence that the animal and vegetable kingdom does not possess. Because we possess this special intelligence (because we are modern man in the image of God) we can grow and created in ways that no other species can. This is what I meant by man being created after the God kind.
We are not stupid animal neanderthal man, but God like man, so we are able to go beyond what animals can do. Neanderthal man could never write books or go to the moon or create Music or art, but we, man in God's image, can do all of that and much more.