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by **Free Hatani** on Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:00 pm

Accused:

rediago
Joe Kickass

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 11980037
Game 11699639
Game 11275968
Game 11638189
Game 11661199

Current game:
Game 12064771

Comments: I think the games speak for themselves. They don't mention knowing each other in RL. In all but one of the Standard games that they have played together, in which one of them won, they managed to get it just down to just the two of them at the end. In the one exception "rediago" took out Joe Kickass and another player in quick succession.

Please block them from playing together. Thanks for your attention.

Respectfully,

Free Hatani

by **macbone** on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:08 pm

I'm pretty sure they do know each other. They've played 29 games together, 8 of them team games where they played on the same team, and they talk back and forth in game chat.

Of the standard games they've finished, one of them has one 6 of the 17 standard games they've finished, and they play a mix of 4, 5, and 6 player games. If they're cheating, they're not doing a very good job. =)

by **Karl_R_Kroenen** on Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:25 am

Joe Kickass has been busted with Queen EElizabeth

do you still want to proceed with the SD accusation?

by **Free Hatani** on Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:32 am

I leave that to you. It does seem to me that there was some sort of secret alliances going on in multiple games. But you know the rules and likely punishments better than I do. I suppose I would at least like it noted on rediago's record if confirmed. Thanks for your time on this.

Respectfully,

Free Hatani

by **Free Hatani** on Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:56 am

I would like to ammend my complaint to include the follow secret alliances:

rediago and Queen EElizabeth (Joe Kickass' multi)

Game 11506697
Game 11506698
Game 11506699

Same exact pattern as with Joe Kickass. Obviously working together.

by **Joe Kickass** on Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:22 am

I would like to state for the record Rediago and I do not have a secret alliance. We are friends and he introduced me to this game. I know his style of play and he knows mine, so it may seem like we are collaborating but we are not. I do have two accounts. I started both because I wanted to play more than 4 games at a time but couldn't afford the membership. When I got the money, I upgraded my first membership. I have never played in a game as both of those characters. I played them as separate characters, never having any secret alliances with anyone. Ever! I do not cheat against other players, I am only guilty of having two accounts.

by **Free Hatani** on Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:26 am

So it is just coincidence that in the Standard games that you played together in which one of you won, you always get it down to just the 2 of you? That stinks to me. Not fair at all to the other players who have no idea they are going up against 2 friends that are going to cut each other slack. And the fact that you did it both with your account and as a multi makes it look even worse in my opinion.

by **Free Hatani** on Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:13 pm

Interesting that on the last four Manual placement games that they started together, they managed to place themselves on opposite sides of the map. On all 4 maps.

by **Edric Wolfswift** on Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:23 pm

Joe Kickass wrote: I do not cheat against other players, I am only guilty of having two accounts.

It seems rather simple what must be done. Joe Kickass admits to having two accounts... a clear rules violation.

by **Gillipig** on Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:09 am

Edric Wolfswift wrote:
Joe Kickass wrote: I do not cheat against other players, I am only guilty of having two accounts.

It seems rather simple what must be done. Joe Kickass admits to having two accounts... a clear rules violation.

That's not an only in here lol.