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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:58 pm

betiko wrote:seriously.... how the hell could c.ronaldo win the ballon d'or this season??? would be completely unjustfied. He won the liga, big deal! portugal did shit during the eurocup!!


nietsche. dude don't stab my heart lol! that video with that sad music is too hard to watch! Just remembering the awesome team we had from 98 to 06 and the spoiled brats we have today.... we even lost vs mexico in the past world cup!! :( :oops: ;) :D


Imagine Zidane had scored that header that Buffon stopped in 2006...

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:10 pm

tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:11 pm

betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!


But France has a good team again don't they?

How many 2nd places qualify?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:31 pm

betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby sempaispellcheck on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:31 pm

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CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em


who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:34 pm

nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!


But France has a good team again don't they?

How many 2nd places qualify?


basically for europe you have 9 groups, 1sts are qualified and the 8 best 2nds go to playoffs home and away and 4 teams qualify.
All groups are of 6 teams except the group offrance and spain tha is of 5 teams. but from what I understood and to not make it unfair for the group with 5 teams, to compare 2nds they will remove results vs the teams finishing 6th in the 6 teams groups.

I don't know about france, I kind of had little hopes till the eurocup game vs ukraine where we played good. Then for the last game vs sweden we were ridiculous, but still qualified for quarter finals, then we were totally shit in quarter finals vs spain losing without even fighting. Blanc got sacked and now it's Deschamps. He's had pretty decent results so far, including a draw in spain vs spain and a win in italy vs italy in the last 2 games.
The team has a terrible image since the WC 2010 in france, and they are struggling to be "likeable" again. We don't tolerate anymore any bad behaviour outside the pitch, and any little thing they do becomes a scandal here (like nasri asking the press to shut up with his hand when he scored vs england in the eurocup). They are all money hungry assholes only caring for their next club contract and how much more money they'll make. They have no respect for the blue jerzey nor for the one of the club that employs them. Their mentality is true shit. Those are the words of the 98' generation...


Anyway, how much longer do you guys think spain will stay on the top spot? I can't wait to see them lose!!!! :twisted:
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:46 pm

nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.



I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.

of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!! :lol:
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?

ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:59 pm

betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.



I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.

of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!! :lol:
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?

ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!


The system is bullshit. It fosters mediocity. There have been some variants in the last years but basically we have 2 tournaments per year, in each teams play each other in one stadium only, and the first 8 (at some point the first 10) play each other in quaterfinals, home and away. You could have a team winning all his games in the regular season and then have a bad afternoon and end up eliminated. And for this same reason we have low quality games. At some point it was 4 groups and the first 2 of each group and the 2 best 3rds qualified.

The gold mine of the owners of the clubs still is the national team, but the last couple of years they've been trying to make changes in the league because people stopped watching. I myself stopped too 2-3 years ago. With Fox, ESPN and another local channel broadcasting games of Europe, the choice is simple.

And yes, Cuauhtemoc is an aztec name. There are a few people with those type of names.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:01 pm

sempaispellcheck wrote:
betiko wrote:
CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em


who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?

No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.


I was making fun of this guy! ;)
By the way.... Adebayor is a striker and dempsey an attacking midfielder.

by the way... arsenal won 7-3 tonight vs newcastle, wow!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:08 pm

nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.



I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.

of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!! :lol:
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?

ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!


The system is bullshit. It fosters mediocity. There have been some variants in the last years but basically we have 2 tournaments per year, in each teams play each other in one stadium only, and the first 8 (at some point the first 10) play each other in quaterfinals, home and away. You could have a team winning all his games in the regular season and then have a bad afternoon and end up eliminated. And for this same reason we have low quality games. At some point it was 4 groups and the first 2 of each group and the 2 best 3rds qualified.

The gold mine of the owners of the clubs still is the national team, but the last couple of years they've been trying to make changes in the league because people stopped watching. I myself stopped too 2-3 years ago. With Fox, ESPN and another local channel broadcasting games of Europe, the choice is simple.

And yes, Cuauhtemoc is an aztec name. There are a few people with those type of names.



so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby CBlake on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:48 pm

betiko wrote:
sempaispellcheck wrote:
betiko wrote:
CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em


who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?

No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.


I was making fun of this guy! ;)
By the way.... Adebayor is a striker and dempsey an attacking midfielder.

by the way... arsenal won 7-3 tonight vs newcastle, wow!


I'm fully aware my man Spurs are my favorite team and they will run Defoe and Adebayor together instead of another midfielder.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby CBlake on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:50 pm

betiko wrote:
sempaispellcheck wrote:
betiko wrote:
CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em


who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?

No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.


I was making fun of this guy! ;)
By the way.... Adebayor is a striker and dempsey an attacking midfielder.

by the way... arsenal won 7-3 tonight vs newcastle, wow!


Clint Dempsey is one of the most creative players as far as creating chances goes, he is kind of unappreciated.

Also Newcastle has been very disappointing this season :/
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:51 am

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so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:14 am

Also Newcastle has been very disappointing this season :/[/quote]

After the heroics of last season I was hoping for so much more from my beloved Magpies,ah well they've been breaking my heart for half a century now,why would I expect anything else?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:19 am

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so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.


I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?

Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby GreecePwns on Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:06 am

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betiko wrote:

so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.


I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?

Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.


Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.

European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.

As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:52 pm

GreecePwns wrote:
betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:

so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.


I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?

Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.


Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.

European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.

As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).


you mean derbys! you are talking as if half of the games were derbys... but yeah I get your point, although you could still have groups done by geographic proximity for first stage then when you advance you can play any american nation..
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:13 am

betiko wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:

so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.


I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?

Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.


Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.

European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.

As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).


you mean derbys! you are talking as if half of the games were derbys... but yeah I get your point, although you could still have groups done by geographic proximity for first stage then when you advance you can play any american nation..


I think they should merge the Copa America and Golden Cup.. it's a tournament hosted by one nation once every 4 years.. This way, South America nations would have qualifiers to reach this.. Consequently, they should split their world cup qualifiers into 2 groups instead of shitty 10 teams round robin which negatively affected the performance and levels of South America nations.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:45 am

I agree pirlo. The concacaf and the OFC are way too shitty, just merge them with the conmebol and the AFC.
Also, isn't it ridiculous for the club world cup championship each year to have these type of teams who always lose on the first round? or in the confederation cup...
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Nola_Lifer on Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:33 pm

I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:44 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.


well if you think the conmebol is shitty, for you there is just the uefa that's worth something? the libertadores is a hell of a tournament, if mexicans and americans could play it with fair chances, it would definitely make their clubs progress internationally.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:03 pm

betiko wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.


well if you think the conmebol is shitty, for you there is just the uefa that's worth something? the libertadores is a hell of a tournament, if mexicans and americans could play it with fair chances, it would definitely make their clubs progress internationally.


sad but true... South america football is no longer as decent as used to be. I'm a fan of that part of the world (football wise), but let's face it, as UEFA's unstoppable progress goes, corruption in South America just held their progress back.

I think the 10 nations qualifiers competition for 4-5 places in world cup finals just diluted the strength of their 2 giants, Argentina and Brazil.

Those 2 don't have to worry about their places in World cup anymore. Argentina know they can lose 6 games and still advance, while in the past when it used to be 5 teams in each group, they knew they couldn't afford more than one defeat or 2 as maximum. so why would they bother to strategize and play seriously? Not to mention how exhausting it gets when a player has to cross the ocean too many times to represent his national team.

I still remember the 2011 Copa America hosted by Argentina... and I still remember how Tevez and Lavezzi lacked fitness, and they seemed to be too fat as players... what the hell their coach was doing? and how in the world he left them get to that? and they still got to be starters while Kun Aguero was benched :roll:
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:45 pm

well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:49 pm

betiko wrote:well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.


Copa america is held every 4 years... African one still needs to be the same.. and it's much better if they held it in summer instead of mid-season.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:13 am

Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.


Copa america is held every 4 years... African one still needs to be the same.. and it's much better if they held it in summer instead of mid-season.


oh they did change it for the copa america,but it's since an edition or 2 max right?

africa, it's just impossible to make it in the northern hemispheresummer, unless it s in south africa..
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