MrOpolo deliberately throwing game [Cleared] DCR

[betiko]

PLACE THE NAME OF THE ACCUSED IN THE SUBJECT LINE!!!


Accused:

MrOpolo




The accused are suspected of:

deliberately throwing game



Game number(s):

Game 12175091



Comments:
I had absolutely no problem with this guy all game, he basically got bored at some point when we were all even at +750 troops and trades were 125 (he had 3 spoils in hand I had 3). If he decideds to stop playing he just deadbeats and let me and red fight each other; other solution is to trim both players evenly eventually. but suiciding on me just because points are unimportant to him, and the other player had to go to a party is very lame and deserves a warning imo.

[Gillipig]

He probably just didn't want to deabeat. Two hour speed games can get on your nerves I imagine.
I looked at his rating history and it doesn't look like he does this often.

[hmsps]

Seems like the mods might just note this as a similar event took place in a CC game viewtopic.php?f=239&t=183520

[betiko]

Seems like the mods might just note this as a similar event took place in a CC game http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 9&t=183520

it's something i deeply hate and that is against the rules although never enforced. So basically deadbeating is bad, but randomly suiciding on someone when you get bored is ok? I see no problem with deadbeating when you had enough.

[Gillipig]

Seems like the mods might just note this as a similar event took place in a CC game viewtopic.php?f=239&t=183520

it's something i deeply hate and that is against the rules although never enforced. So basically deadbeating is bad, but randomly suiciding on someone when you get bored is ok? I see no problem with deadbeating when you had enough.

On the other hand we don't want gestapo enforcement. One time is no time when it comes to a minor offence like this.

[GeneralRisk]

Seems like the mods might just note this as a similar event took place in a CC game viewtopic.php?f=239&t=183520

it's something i deeply hate and that is against the rules although never enforced. So basically deadbeating is bad, but randomly suiciding on someone when you get bored is ok? I see no problem with deadbeating when you had enough.

On the other hand we don't want gestapo enforcement. One time is no time when it comes to a minor offence like this.

What is wrong with the Gestapo?........Suicide is common in 3 player games. Usually done against the lower rank. This guy didnt care about points.

[betiko]

Seems like the mods might just note this as a similar event took place in a CC game viewtopic.php?f=239&t=183520

it's something i deeply hate and that is against the rules although never enforced. So basically deadbeating is bad, but randomly suiciding on someone when you get bored is ok? I see no problem with deadbeating when you had enough.

On the other hand we don't want gestapo enforcement. One time is no time when it comes to a minor offence like this.

What is wrong with the Gestapo?........Suicide is common in 3 player games. Usually done against the lower rank. This guy didnt care about points.

the etiquette is deadbeating if no one has offended you systematically attacking and/or you're getting in verbal arguments in the chat with that player. what is wrong with deadbeating if you are done playing??? why f*ck someone up (or every other players) who hasn't done anything to you? we had all 3 played in a manner that didn't piss each other off, and one player had to leave in 10 minutes. How is that a behaviour we are going to let go? how is that not as bad as point dumping/ secret diplomacy/rating abuse/freemium multi??

[Gillipig]

Seems like the mods might just note this as a similar event took place in a CC game viewtopic.php?f=239&t=183520

it's something i deeply hate and that is against the rules although never enforced. So basically deadbeating is bad, but randomly suiciding on someone when you get bored is ok? I see no problem with deadbeating when you had enough.

On the other hand we don't want gestapo enforcement. One time is no time when it comes to a minor offence like this.

What is wrong with the Gestapo?........Suicide is common in 3 player games. Usually done against the lower rank. This guy didnt care about points.

the etiquette is deadbeating if someone has offended you systematically attacking and/or you're getting in verbal arguments in the chat with that player. what is wrong with deadbeating if you are done playing??? why f*ck someone up (or every other players) who hasn't done anything to you? we had all 3 played in a manner that didn't piss each other off, and one player had to leave in 10 minutes. How is that a behaviour we are going to let go? how is that not as bad as point dumping/ secret diplomacy/rating abuse/freemium multi??

There's often a fine line between suiciding and just playing poorly. Even though it's not the case in this particular game, people like to accuse others of suiciding when they just play poorly. If poor strategy was against the rules, the C&A team would have to work 24/7 to keep up with all the reports. And if suiciding were to be made a major offence, all of us would at some point have been deserving of a ban. Suiciding happens, it will continue to happen, and unless the accused has put it into some sort of system similar to mass deadbeating, they're not really deservant of a ban.

[Funkyterrance]

the etiquette is deadbeating if someone has offended you systematically attacking and/or you're getting in verbal arguments in the chat with that player. what is wrong with deadbeating if you are done playing??? why f*ck someone up (or every other players) who hasn't done anything to you? we had all 3 played in a manner that didn't piss each other off, and one player had to leave in 10 minutes. How is that a behaviour we are going to let go? how is that not as bad as point dumping/ secret diplomacy/rating abuse/freemium multi??

I think it's interesting how passionate you seem to feel about rules when it involves you personally. All that aside, how do you know he wasn't just hoping for great dice and trying to take you out?

[Gillipig]

the etiquette is deadbeating if someone has offended you systematically attacking and/or you're getting in verbal arguments in the chat with that player. what is wrong with deadbeating if you are done playing??? why f*ck someone up (or every other players) who hasn't done anything to you? we had all 3 played in a manner that didn't piss each other off, and one player had to leave in 10 minutes. How is that a behaviour we are going to let go? how is that not as bad as point dumping/ secret diplomacy/rating abuse/freemium multi??

I think it's interesting how passionate you seem to feel about rules when it involves you personally. All that aside, how do you know he wasn't just hoping for great dice and trying to take you out?

2013-01-05 19:45:06 - MrOpolo: come on someone must make a play , well if it means to be foed so be it , it was great playing with y guys...
2013-01-05 19:53:35 - saintslayer: u 2
2013-01-05 19:56:18 - betiko: congrats for losing more points
2013-01-05 19:56:34 - betiko: you couldv e ballanced the attack
2013-01-05 19:57:00 - betiko: thanks for making me lose my time
2013-01-05 19:57:29 - MrOpolo: hes having a party ... points not the worry ,, good game guys it was fun
2013-01-05 19:57:52 - betiko: they are for me thanks for being a dick
2013-01-05 19:58:32 - MrOpolo: wow ok so i can expect to be foed then...

[Funkyterrance]

the etiquette is deadbeating if someone has offended you systematically attacking and/or you're getting in verbal arguments in the chat with that player. what is wrong with deadbeating if you are done playing??? why f*ck someone up (or every other players) who hasn't done anything to you? we had all 3 played in a manner that didn't piss each other off, and one player had to leave in 10 minutes. How is that a behaviour we are going to let go? how is that not as bad as point dumping/ secret diplomacy/rating abuse/freemium multi??

I think it's interesting how passionate you seem to feel about rules when it involves you personally. All that aside, how do you know he wasn't just hoping for great dice and trying to take you out?

2013-01-05 19:45:06 - MrOpolo: come on someone must make a play , well if it means to be foed so be it , it was great playing with y guys...
2013-01-05 19:53:35 - saintslayer: u 2
2013-01-05 19:56:18 - betiko: congrats for losing more points
2013-01-05 19:56:34 - betiko: you couldv e ballanced the attack
2013-01-05 19:57:00 - betiko: thanks for making me lose my time
2013-01-05 19:57:29 - MrOpolo: hes having a party ... points not the worry ,, good game guys it was fun
2013-01-05 19:57:52 - betiko: they are for me thanks for being a dick
2013-01-05 19:58:32 - MrOpolo: wow ok so i can expect to be foed then...

Ok from the chat it looks to me like he could have "made a move" just like he said he was going to and failed. The chat doesn't prove one way or another, just that he made a decision to break a stalemate.

[Gillipig]

the etiquette is deadbeating if someone has offended you systematically attacking and/or you're getting in verbal arguments in the chat with that player. what is wrong with deadbeating if you are done playing??? why f*ck someone up (or every other players) who hasn't done anything to you? we had all 3 played in a manner that didn't piss each other off, and one player had to leave in 10 minutes. How is that a behaviour we are going to let go? how is that not as bad as point dumping/ secret diplomacy/rating abuse/freemium multi??

I think it's interesting how passionate you seem to feel about rules when it involves you personally. All that aside, how do you know he wasn't just hoping for great dice and trying to take you out?

2013-01-05 19:45:06 - MrOpolo: come on someone must make a play , well if it means to be foed so be it , it was great playing with y guys...
2013-01-05 19:53:35 - saintslayer: u 2
2013-01-05 19:56:18 - betiko: congrats for losing more points
2013-01-05 19:56:34 - betiko: you couldv e ballanced the attack
2013-01-05 19:57:00 - betiko: thanks for making me lose my time
2013-01-05 19:57:29 - MrOpolo: hes having a party ... points not the worry ,, good game guys it was fun
2013-01-05 19:57:52 - betiko: they are for me thanks for being a dick
2013-01-05 19:58:32 - MrOpolo: wow ok so i can expect to be foed then...

Ok from the chat it looks to me like he could have "made a move" just like he said he was going to and failed. The chat doesn't prove one way or another, just that he made a decision to break a stalemate.

The parts marked in bold tells us that he was aware of what he did was foe worthy, and that he did it (suicided) so that saintslayer could go to his party. Although I suspect it was more because he was tired of the game himself.

[Funkyterrance]

2013-01-05 19:45:06 - MrOpolo: come on someone must make a play , well if it means to be foed so be it , it was great playing with y guys...
2013-01-05 19:53:35 - saintslayer: u 2
2013-01-05 19:56:18 - betiko: congrats for losing more points
2013-01-05 19:56:34 - betiko: you couldv e ballanced the attack
2013-01-05 19:57:00 - betiko: thanks for making me lose my time
2013-01-05 19:57:29 - MrOpolo: hes having a party ... points not the worry ,, good game guys it was fun
2013-01-05 19:57:52 - betiko: they are for me thanks for being a dick
2013-01-05 19:58:32 - MrOpolo: wow ok so i can expect to be foed then...

The parts marked in bold tells us that he was aware of what he did was foe worthy, and that he did it (suicided) so that saintslayer could go to his party. Although I suspect it was more because he was tired of the game himself.

He may have been tired of the game but there's insufficient evidence that he threw it.
If it's a stalemate and you are going to take the chance of taking one other player out, you have to choose one or the other. The person who gets "chosen" is likely to be pissed off and foe you for it. I'm pretty sure breaking a stalemate isn't against the rules. While this method may not be the most practical way of doing so, it's not evidence of deliberately throwing the game. Again, there is the small chance he could have gotten amazing dice and taken out both players.

[betiko]

2013-01-05 19:45:06 - MrOpolo: come on someone must make a play , well if it means to be foed so be it , it was great playing with y guys...
2013-01-05 19:53:35 - saintslayer: u 2
2013-01-05 19:56:18 - betiko: congrats for losing more points
2013-01-05 19:56:34 - betiko: you couldv e ballanced the attack
2013-01-05 19:57:00 - betiko: thanks for making me lose my time
2013-01-05 19:57:29 - MrOpolo: hes having a party ... points not the worry ,, good game guys it was fun
2013-01-05 19:57:52 - betiko: they are for me thanks for being a dick
2013-01-05 19:58:32 - MrOpolo: wow ok so i can expect to be foed then...

The parts marked in bold tells us that he was aware of what he did was foe worthy, and that he did it (suicided) so that saintslayer could go to his party. Although I suspect it was more because he was tired of the game himself.

He may have been tired of the game but there's insufficient evidence that he threw it.
If it's a stalemate and you are going to take the chance of taking one other player out, you have to choose one or the other. The person who gets "chosen" is likely to be pissed off and foe you for it. I'm pretty sure breaking a stalemate isn't against the rules. While this method may not be the most practical way of doing so, it's not evidence of deliberately throwing the game. Again, there is the small chance he could have gotten amazing dice and taken out both players.

funky, go somewhere else you're a troll. just because i did the report you are going to disagree with me. If you are going to comment, at least read the comment on my report or just do the fucking math. troops were 750+ even for all 3 players and trades 125. not even a cook would think he has a chance.

regarding your other idiotic comment, allow me to have my own opinion and to be against "game throwing" and have no problem with people sitting turns in case of absence.

[MrOpolo]

WOW is all i can say .......