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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [13.1.13] V11-P8 border assaults

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:13 pm

Damn, it does get a little messy with the hard dotted lines like that doesn't it? Hmm...
What if it were ellipses instead of dotted lines? It is a difficult thing, cairns, I can see that now. On the one hand it is hard to tell some of the attack routes without notation but you also endanger the clean look of the map with such bold markings. I wonder if there is a middle-of-the-road option as far as boldness?
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [13.1.13] V11-P8 border assaults

Postby cairnswk on Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:39 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:Damn, it does get a little messy with the hard dotted lines like that doesn't it? Hmm...
What if it were ellipses instead of dotted lines? It is a difficult thing, cairns, I can see that now. On the one hand it is hard to tell some of the attack routes without notation but you also endanger the clean look of the map with such bold markings. I wonder if there is a middle-of-the-road option as far as boldness?

FT, were u looking at the v11 draft on previous page? cos it's got no dotted lines on it!
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Re: Massacre à Paris [13.1.13] V11-P8 border assaults

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:16 am

OK, Version 11 complete with all symbols in place...and expanded explanation.
I wonder if this will calrify connections.

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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:53 pm

The black squares are nice, I'll have to admit. So all the black squares in each group can attack one another? If so, it's really effective. I think you've nailed it cairns with that little extra room for explanation in the legend. Not to mention the map still looks pretty darn handsome.
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby Leehar on Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:35 pm

Idk, the connections were my first worry as well.

how can I tell if HF can attack CH etc (there's nothing between them)
H37 can attack both vertically and horizontally? :s

And also, I'm not sure if I'm reading it right but does the guard hit the building first, then the person inside? Any way to clarify that?
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby cairnswk on Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:18 pm

Leehar wrote:Idk, the connections were my first worry as well.
how can I tell if HF can attack CH etc (there's nothing between them)

because you must read the legend
which shows in the diagram and states that all duelers can assault their opponent in immiediate vicinity.
given that CF is diagonally in vicinity of HF, they border each other.

H37 can attack both vertically and horizontally? :s

yes, H37 has across borders with C35 and C25, and assaults c37 also

And also, I'm not sure if I'm reading it right but does the guard hit the building first, then the person inside? Any way to clarify that?

Yes i'm sure i can do that, any suggestions as to the wording?
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby Leehar on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:03 am

Yeah, it's hard to conceive what immediate vicinity is defined as, but I guess I must be grateful bob will show all the connections!

For H37, then wouldn't a triangle be better? Tho I guess the C25 border wouldn't be as confirmed.

Wording: Only Guards can attack buildings and only buildings can attack personages within (whoever they are? Generals, Religious figureheads, revolutionaries etc)
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby Industrial Helix on Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:57 pm

I'm no expert, but I do know a little French and I'm not sure the title is totally correct. In my crappy understanding I read the translation as "Slaughter to Paris" but I think you're aiming for "Slaughter of Paris" or "Slaughter in Paris." which based on my limited knowledge and no practical experience, should be Massacre de Paris" or "Massacre dans Paris." But again I'm no expert and probably don;t know what I'm talking about, but it might be worth looking into.
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:05 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:I'm no expert, but I do know a little French and I'm not sure the title is totally correct. In my crappy understanding I read the translation as "Slaughter to Paris" but I think you're aiming for "Slaughter of Paris" or "Slaughter in Paris." which based on my limited knowledge and no practical experience, should be Massacre de Paris" or "Massacre dans Paris." But again I'm no expert and probably don;t know what I'm talking about, but it might be worth looking into.


Thanks IH.
yes it is technically wrong.
it should be Le Massacre de Paris
change next update. :)
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:10 pm

Leehar wrote:Yeah, it's hard to conceive what immediate vicinity is defined as, but I guess I must be grateful bob will show all the connections!

even though there is a diagram to show what immediate vicinity means...

For H37, then wouldn't a triangle be better? Tho I guess the C25 border wouldn't be as confirmed.

you answewed your own question.

Wording: Only Guards can attack buildings and only buildings can attack personages within (whoever they are? Generals, Religious figureheads, revolutionaries etc)

Possible...i'll reflect on it. :)
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:10 pm

When can we play it? ;)
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby cairnswk on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:26 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:When can we play it? ;)

Hehe...about 12 months away yet FT...you know the pace...appreciate your enthusiasm though. :)
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby nolefan5311 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:50 pm

Honestly cairns, and I'm not trying to be slick or anything here, but I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around this one. I've looked at it, taken a day or two break, come back to look at it again, and I've done this for the better part of two weeks, and I'm still struggling to understand what's going on. The attack routes are just too vague for me.
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Re: Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby cairnswk on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:54 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:Honestly cairns, and I'm not trying to be slick or anything here, but I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around this one. I've looked at it, taken a day or two break, come back to look at it again, and I've done this for the better part of two weeks, and I'm still struggling to understand what's going on. The attack routes are just too vague for me.

OH dear! it's a simple matter of attacking the man next to you i.e. in the immediate vicinity. :)
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Re: Massacre à Paris [15.1.13] V11-P8 border symbols

Postby cairnswk on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:24 am

And this is also way overdue for recycle bin ;)
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