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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:01 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:Image

These.

They can be found here:

viewtopic.php?f=648&t=151232

If you still can't figure out how to put these on, ask koontz or isaiah, lol. I'm not a graphics guy

Fast posted by nole!
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:26 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:...
If you still can't figure out how to put these on, ask koontz or isaiah, lol. I'm not a graphics guy

You have to cut them up into singular colour 888s using the marquee tool and cut and paste. :)
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Mishalex on Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:31 pm

Thanks a lot guys, Lancelot is doing the changes right now...
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:00 pm

Everybody, here the small and big'888 VERSION !!! Done, done and done ;)

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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:26 pm

Okay, on the small, the Paris inset needs to be larger to get the 888's to fit in better. Don't worry about it going over the regions a bit, you have plenty of room. Also I think that the mini-map can be made a tad bigger as well. You have room, again it doesn't matter if it goes over the regions a little bit.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby pamoa on Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:18 am

isaiah40 wrote:Okay, on the small, the Paris inset needs to be larger to get the 888's to fit in better. Don't worry about it going over the regions a bit, you have plenty of room. Also I think that the mini-map can be made a tad bigger as well. You have room, again it doesn't matter if it goes over the regions a little bit.
No need to change graphics
the outer 888's are already on the main map
and you cannot have 2 army spots for the same territory
so please remove them on the minimap
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:27 am

pamoa wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:Okay, on the small, the Paris inset needs to be larger to get the 888's to fit in better. Don't worry about it going over the regions a bit, you have plenty of room. Also I think that the mini-map can be made a tad bigger as well. You have room, again it doesn't matter if it goes over the regions a little bit.
No need to change graphics
the outer 888's are already on the main map
and you cannot have 2 army spots for the same territory
so please remove them on the minimap

While true about the outer 888's, I wasn't looking at those, I was looking at the inner ones. So yes the inset needs to be made larger, not by much. Lancelot, those 888's in the outer regions of the inset do need to be removed as pamoa mentioned above, but please make the inset a little larger so the inner 888's fit in better so nothing will be covered up.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:17 pm

888 version big and small, 2 updates :
- In small map zom in paris made largest
- In small and big map 888's in the outer regions of the inset to be removed


show: Big map version 888


show: Small map version 888
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [11 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:54 pm

is it ok for you ? the first topic is update with this two new 888' versions !
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [11 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Mishalex on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:34 am

May we have your advices please? thanks a lot guys
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [11 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:50 am

Patience! We are discussing the colorblind test behind the scenes, and I will post here once we have finished. Please post the color blind test in the first post as well. This stills needs to be worked on:
isaiah40 wrote:Also I think that the mini-map can be made a tad bigger as well. You have room, again it doesn't matter if it goes over the regions a little bit.

This needs to be done especially on the small so that the bonus regions can be seen clearly. You may also want to make the text in the mini-map black as well for further clarity.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [17 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:11 pm

Thank you for your advice and your patience

Update performed in the first topic.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [17 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby RjBeals on Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:41 pm

To keep the mountains from looking like clipart, try adding a shadow to the land. There's already a light direction on the mountains themselves, just add some dark areas to the ground beside them - see graphic. Also - nice map :)


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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [17 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:51 pm

Lancelot du Lac wrote:Thank you for your advice and your patience

Update performed in the first topic.

You need to post the small map as well please. And please post the updated images on this page and the first post, it makes it easier for us to comment on instead of going between this current page and the first post.

RjBeals wrote:To keep the mountains from looking like clipart, try adding a shadow to the land. There's already a light direction on the mountains themselves, just add some dark areas to the ground beside them - see graphic. Also - nice map :)


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This is a very good idea!!!

Please get the changes done so we can get this moved on into the Final Forge!!
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [19 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:15 pm

RjBeals wrote:To keep the mountains from looking like clipart, try adding a shadow to the land. There's already a light direction on the mountains themselves, just add some dark areas to the ground beside them - see graphic. Also - nice map :)

Here are my latest graphic changes. They concern the shadows of the mountains. Now I can not make up because I have to do everything twice.

isaiah40 wrote:You need to post the small map as well please. And please post the updated images on this page and the first post, it makes it easier for us to comment on instead of going between this current page and the first post.

Please get the changes done so we can get this moved on into the Final Forge!!

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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [19 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby RjBeals on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:56 pm

sorry but that's not what should have happened. Do not apply drop shadow or you get floating mountains. Use your brush tool and draw shadows on the land, in one direction. Reduce opacity to maybe 20% and blend mode to multiply. You can apply a slight blur to the brush strokes if you wish. Sort of follow the peak lines of the mountains as real shadows would cast.

If this doesn't work, i think it looked better how you had it originally.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [19 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby Mishalex on Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:03 am

Hi all, we'll come back soon with, I hope, a new version with the moutain's shadow (if we succeed this WE).

Thanks all for your advices...
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [19 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:18 pm

Here is the latest work I've done in the shadows. Tell me if this tell you and I should be referring to both map.

On your side you could walk the xml?

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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [19 December 2012] pg 18/18

Postby RedBaron0 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:29 pm

Better, but definitely way to dark, likely need to be longer too, considering the height of the mountains.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [18 January 2013] pg 18/18

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:09 pm

Here are my latest proposals. I do the updates for each map.

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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [18 January 2013] pg 18/18

Postby Mishalex on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:12 pm

Isiah, did you advanced onthe xml?
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [18 January 2013] pg 18/18

Postby RedBaron0 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:45 pm

Again, better, but needs to be better still for sure. I think if you replicate the look of the entire mountains/shadow package in the area of Alsace-Loraine, you'll be there.

And before you ask, here's my point. The mountains in the south really seem stretched out and unnatural, and the shadow is probably too dark still. The shadows in the southeast are better that the ones in the Alps, they definitely too dark by several levels. The southeast mountain shadows may only need a shade or 2 lighter.
The mountain in the center are all identical, the shadow is also a bit too dark, but it isn't as dramatic as the ones in the Alps.

This is a prime example of doing the exact same thing to a graphical attribute. Sometimes it works, other time you will need to tailor things specifically to surrounding attributes, based on such things as; color, texture, lighting, theme, etc.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [18 January 2013] pg 18/18

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:25 am

RedBaron0 wrote:The mountain in the center are all identical, the shadow is also a bit too dark, but it isn't as dramatic as the ones in the Alps.


If you look closely, you will notice that they are not the same. In addition, the graph of the mountains has been validated.

I will continue my work on the shadows and listen to your advice.

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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [18 January 2013] pg 18/18

Postby Mishalex on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:35 am

I'm not a huge fan of the shadow personnaly, it seems like the moutains are drop on the map, floating in an unatural way...
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [18 January 2013] pg 18/18

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:11 am

Mishalex wrote:Isiah, did you advanced on the xml?


Someone has already started working on the xml to avoid losing too much time?
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