Night Strike wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Night Strike wrote:Woodruff wrote:Night Strike wrote:As for background checks, I already stated that forcing every private individual to call up the FBI and wait for a background check is quite onerous.
Tough shit. Price of doing business.
Most aren't interstate commerce, so the federal government doesn't hold jurisdiction.
One of the biggst problems is that a lot of online and interperson trade IS done to people out of state, and its not just a casual problem when someone simply traveling trhough a state (perhaps only because of an emergency) can be arrested for unknowingly not following a state's laws.
And, no, ... it doesn't take a long time to get a check. Usually it takes less than 5 minutes. If it takes longer, then there likely is something to find.
That's because some states decide it's okay to ignore the 2nd amendment and the federal government has rarely stepped in and remedied those actions.
Not even close to true.. and not relevant. You claimed it takes an onerous amount of time to get a gun check. Less than 5 minutes hardly qualifies as an undoamount of time.
And per the different state laws, particularly carry laws, nothing at all to do with the second amendment. You cannot have it bother ways... claim the federal government has no jurisdiction AND that states are not protecting the second amendment properly.
Night Strike wrote:Symmetry wrote:Why? Wouldn't responsible gun owners try to follow the law?
They're the only ones who WILL be following the law. The criminals will just keep doing what they are doing knowing there will be fewer victims with guns around.
You have no evidence to back your statements, only beliefs.[/quote]
Chicago. Both the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado and Sandy Hook Elementary were "gun free zones".[/quote]
Definitely not proof of the above, at all.
NO ONE is claiming that any check will stop crime, particularly not those who are truly intent. The claim, and the one you cannot truly refute with evidence is that registering guns or restricting guns will not mean fewer gun crimes. Also, there is a HUGE difference between small, independent "gun free" zones and a widespread, uniform set of rules. Also, by-the way, neither Aurora nor Sandy Hook truly were "gun free zones" -- unless you mean JUST the school and movie theatres.
See, having a lot less crime is significant, demanding NO crime is just unreasonable.