Three Kingdoms of China - v8.0 [2013-04-21] p14

[nolefan5311]

I think you should probably run with n2, since nobody will ever start with more than 1. Can you update this in the first post?

[koontz1973]

N2 seems good. It would allow players an easy bonus and make some think twice.

[Seamus76]

I think you should probably run with n2, since nobody will ever start with more than 1. Can you update this in the first post?

I have updated the first post to include wording which states that starting neutral cities will start 2 neutral.

[skychaser]

Wow. Nice. I would ask for this map here.

The Three Kingdoms(San Guo) is the name of an "AGE" of the Chinese history populated by the most bravest, smartest and badassests heroes of all time.

There's a book called Romance of the Three Kingdoms(san guó zhi) which is a mix of ancient history and romance itself. It's kind of a huge book(about 3.000 pages) full of dids of intelligence(Zhuge Liang is the most fucking strategic bastard of all times and Guan Yu is so bold he's revered today as a god in some regions, bold to the point a doctor would cut his meat and clean his bone with a blade while he plays chess calmly) but I think it's a must read for anyone who's slightly interested in strategies. There's also the Records of Three Kingdoms which is the history de facto.


Conditions to win(if applied) could be by having most cities but not by commercial routes. Commercial routes where opened and were of importance at the time and these routes are still active today basically 18 centuries later but the deciding factor was always the war and the commercial routes only reflected the wars and the power shifted caused by the wars.
And the history itself only ends in the book when all the kingdoms are united again under a lord.
The book has it's 3000 pages but he starts and ends with the same paragraph.

There could be a bigger version of the map. There are lots and lots of cities at the book and at the maps

[neanderpaul14]

Having flashbacks to the old Romance of the Three Kingdoms video games, can almost hear that haunting music.

[Seamus76]

Having flashbacks to the old Romance of the Three Kingdoms video games, can almost hear that haunting music.

Good stuff, I'm glad you like the map. Maybe we should ask for map soundtracks for the next "update".

skychaser, you are correct, what an amazing time period, and some of the most important writings in history. I would love to make a larger map featuring the battles and wars, this one though is meant to be a simple representation of the Kingdoms, which is what I feel a lot of players are looking for these days. I would love to see any maps or ideas you have though.

Thanks again guys, keep the feedback coming.

[skychaser]

I think Shu is a good name however Shu-Han would be more suitable to the western region. Liu Bei conquered it as the means of preserving the Han dynasty so that's why the name for.

[skychaser]

There's a lot of battles that can be made into maps. Red Cliff as an example would be a good naval battle map.

[Dukasaur]

Having flashbacks to the old Romance of the Three Kingdoms video games, can almost hear that haunting music.

+1

Nothing better than trapping Dong Zhou in a corner and setting fire to him, and watching him roast while he tries to charge his way out!

[Seamus76]

I'm going to go ahead and sticky this for a couple days (probably until after the weekend) as the gameplay looks solid.

If anybody has any issues regarding Gameplay, now is the time to speak up. Otherwise, this will be stamped in a few days.

Just checking on the status.

[Seamus76]

CURRENT UPDATE INFO - 2013-01-29:
Starting to work on graphics in anticipation of GP stamp. Personally I really like this map, so please let me know what I need to work on.
- Added slight shadow to the coastline.

CURRENT MAP VERSION

v4.1 - Large (840x800)

Click image to enlarge.

[sannemanrobinson]

I like this as well. Especially the four red lines as a frame and the paper texture. The mountains look good too. The filling of the continents is a bit massive and not exacly the same as the minimaps. Maybe just indicating the borders of the continents with the same colour as the minimaps would work just like in 3 kingdoms of Korea.

Gameplay related: Central Wei could be +6 to be more attractie than Jing. Then Kingdom of Wei would be +10. On the other hand if you have Bei Ping it will be easy to hold so it could stay like now. Maybe connect Bei Ping and Jianye over the sea?

[skychaser]

Well. Talking on gameplay. Don't we need more bonuses? Wei is surelly stronger, but at this map is the only one who's got easy bonuses.
Take Yang as an example. You must have 6 territories to get a +3 bonus, 6X3 = 18. So you must maybe conquer 18 territories to get a bonus +3. Which will pay itself in over 6 rounds Which means that in most absolute of the matches we will never have one of these territories being taken.


Shu has no bonuses except that unexperienced players of no card and fixed cards may try to take something.
Wei has only two bonuses we can account. Most people would take then given that they are dropped with most territories there. The central part of Wei is not that much of a bonus. You must defeat 27 armies to have a bonus of 5 and 666 borders to defend.

I think this map with virtually no bonuses tends a little to lesser action. Most people would never take nothing than the +1 bonuses and it's not something to make someone jealous or something.

I don't know if people agree to me but I would put a little bit of numbers to the bonuses, the +1 would become +2 and the +2 become +4. All the other with the addiction of 2.

[nolefan5311]

I will take one final look at it tonight to and address skychaser's comments before stamping. Sound good Seamus?

[AndyDufresne]

I can see where skychaser is coming from. Hm.


--Andy