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Re: Dreams

Postby nietzsche on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:26 pm

natty dread wrote:There's one test where you wear a digital watch, you look at it all the time when you're awake, but in dreams, digital watches don't work for some reason, so you'll know you're dreaming.

(I learned about this from the movie Waking Life)


The digital watch method works like this: you wear a digital watch and look at it, say it's 8:03, look away and after a second you look at it again, if it says 8:03 or 8:04 you are awake, but if it says some other time, you are dreaming. Follows the same principle that the light switches I guess, electric, electronic stuff don't work in dreams.

I don't do these things anymore, I don't try lucid dreaming often anymore, every now and then when I see a girl in RL that is super hot I try to lucid dream about her.. if I can't the first night I usually can the second night, given that I haven't forgoten about her, or nailed in real life.. which btw has never happened.

But when I become aware that I'm dreaming in these occasions, I usually use the light switch test or the digital clock test. Sometimes I just kiss the prettiest girl that I have closest, going against my waking life inhibitions, and if I don't get a slap I know I'm dreaming. I used to worry about this behaviour because I thouhgt I might get confused and do it in RL.. which would make me be in trouble.
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Re:

Postby nietzsche on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:29 pm

2dimes wrote:Ugh, I just woke up.

I dreamt I woke up after a first dream. Neither were lucid. In the dream about waking up from the first dream, I didn't go through the motions of getting up, I just sort of was suddenly thrust into the second portion of the dream where I was awake soon after the other dream. Then I was at my deseased Dad's Uncle's house and he was alive and well.

Sure enough there's Nietzsche staying at the house, he kind of looked like a cross between a guy I worked with from mexico in real life briefly several years ago and Lionz's current avatar if he was not making a funny face. I end up interrupting his push ups, talking to him mostly because I wanted to see what his accent sounded like. It was basically American, stupid dream. Then we started to have a huge discussion about light switches in dreams.

I explained that in my dreams not only is there no light switches but everything is very minimalistic. There's nearly no furniture, the walls are a neutral off white colour, there's rarely pictures on the walls. Meanwhile we are in a house that is totally cluttered with things. Then I explained an example from the last dream where I was in a bathroom and there were no towels until suddenly I was wearing one.

Nietzsche told me to keep looking for the light switches. I told him, "I will, and I'll post about it if I do find them." Then I looked at him through a rolled up poster and said, "Hopefully I'll find a switch to lucidly place myself into your dreams!"

Then Mrs.dimes and me went outside to the huge stadium where they were auditioning for a musical traveling kids motivational show somehow based on Hairy potter, yet having nothing to do with Hairy Potter at the same time. I had done the show in the past and they never paid anyone so my wife was worried I was going to try out again. She was happy when I told her I was satisfied with the current new band I'm in, so I was going to stay with them. Then I proceeded to help prepare the shipping trailers for the stadium show for a while.

Somewhere along the line I was talking to my Dad's Uncle about my grandfather who died in real life when my Dad was three. The Uncle knew him for quite a while before he married his sister (my grandmother) who somehow in the dream was dead even though in real life she passed away after the uncle. We were talking about my grandparents and I wanted to tell him about something I found out about my grandfather but couldn't remember what it was.

I woke up frustrated and typed this crappy post explaining the dream. At least I'm pretty sure I'm awake because my nose is stuffy. And my hip is sore.


Next time you dream about me YOU'LL HAVE SAXI AND AOG THERE TOO!! We will be playing poker, and you'll know its a dream because I don't know how to play poker.

You can do it without all the training IMO. You only have to think and desire it really hard before falling asleep. It's like.. being really aware and concentrated that you want it.
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Re: Re:

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:10 pm

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2dimes wrote:Ugh, I just woke up.

I dreamt I woke up after a first dream. Neither were lucid. In the dream about waking up from the first dream, I didn't go through the motions of getting up, I just sort of was suddenly thrust into the second portion of the dream where I was awake soon after the other dream. Then I was at my deseased Dad's Uncle's house and he was alive and well.

Sure enough there's Nietzsche staying at the house, he kind of looked like a cross between a guy I worked with from mexico in real life briefly several years ago and Lionz's current avatar if he was not making a funny face. I end up interrupting his push ups, talking to him mostly because I wanted to see what his accent sounded like. It was basically American, stupid dream. Then we started to have a huge discussion about light switches in dreams.

I explained that in my dreams not only is there no light switches but everything is very minimalistic. There's nearly no furniture, the walls are a neutral off white colour, there's rarely pictures on the walls. Meanwhile we are in a house that is totally cluttered with things. Then I explained an example from the last dream where I was in a bathroom and there were no towels until suddenly I was wearing one.

Nietzsche told me to keep looking for the light switches. I told him, "I will, and I'll post about it if I do find them." Then I looked at him through a rolled up poster and said, "Hopefully I'll find a switch to lucidly place myself into your dreams!"

Then Mrs.dimes and me went outside to the huge stadium where they were auditioning for a musical traveling kids motivational show somehow based on Hairy potter, yet having nothing to do with Hairy Potter at the same time. I had done the show in the past and they never paid anyone so my wife was worried I was going to try out again. She was happy when I told her I was satisfied with the current new band I'm in, so I was going to stay with them. Then I proceeded to help prepare the shipping trailers for the stadium show for a while.

Somewhere along the line I was talking to my Dad's Uncle about my grandfather who died in real life when my Dad was three. The Uncle knew him for quite a while before he married his sister (my grandmother) who somehow in the dream was dead even though in real life she passed away after the uncle. We were talking about my grandparents and I wanted to tell him about something I found out about my grandfather but couldn't remember what it was.

I woke up frustrated and typed this crappy post explaining the dream. At least I'm pretty sure I'm awake because my nose is stuffy. And my hip is sore.


Next time you dream about me YOU'LL HAVE SAXI AND AOG THERE TOO!! We will be playing poker, and you'll know its a dream because I don't know how to play poker.

You can do it without all the training IMO. You only have to think and desire it really hard before falling asleep. It's like.. being really aware and concentrated that you want it.


Nietzsche, something came up - I won't be able to meet you and AoG in 2dimes dream tonight. Tell 2dimes I said thanks for hosting, though.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:48 pm

I think Mrs. Dimes made way too much dip then. If either of you guys have a dog bring it to the dream. Our dog gets the runs from that much dip.
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:10 pm

Ok sure enough, I had a nap today and there was finally a light switch. I remembered to go try it but, when it didn't work I was just annoyed.
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Re: Dreams

Postby notyou2 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:24 pm

Were you sleeping for 10 days?
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:28 pm

No..
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Re: Dreams

Postby notyou2 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:31 pm

napping?
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Re:

Postby nietzsche on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:05 pm

2dimes wrote:Ok sure enough, I had a nap today and there was finally a light switch. I remembered to go try it but, when it didn't work I was just annoyed.


Did you try to change the light bulb?
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:44 pm

No, is that typically how you deal with lights that won't turn off?
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Re:

Postby nietzsche on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:53 pm

2dimes wrote:No, is that typically how you deal with lights that won't turn off?


Yes, damn forever-on light bulbs
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Re: Dreams

Postby 2dimes on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:56 pm

notyou2 wrote:napping?

Oui.
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Re: Dreams

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:57 am

so, in one dream, I flipped a light switch, and then woke up. Awesome.
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Re: Dreams

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:40 pm

Not as detailed as my previous dreams, but still weird-

My dream last night involved me, my dad, and a pet spider I had. The spider looked kinda like a wolf spider:

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but differed a bit in the abdomen and chelicerae and was very big, about the size of my hand. Anyway, I had this spider, and it was recovering from meth addiction, but, despite my care, it would always sneak off and find more meth. Eventually, my old man and I also got high on meth, and we kept trying to stop the spider from partaking of more meth. The meth was just like this block of very fresh stuff that we found. Every time the spider would approach the block, we'd swat him away, but we were trying to avoid these pointers he had on his abdomen that were venomous.

Then I was awoken and never got to see whether we overcame our addiction or whether we ended up on the street.

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Re: Dreams

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:51 pm

I can sometimes tell when I am dreaming, since I usually always have a specific article of clothing on or with me during my everyday life, but it doesn't seem to get translated to my dream self. So when I have noticed it was missing, I was vaguely aware that I was dreaming.

Edit: I also knew someone who had a prosthetic arm for most of his life, but he never dreamed himself with a prosthetic arm, it and his real arm were always missing. He always told me he knew when he was dreaming, if his arm wasn't there.


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Re: Dreams

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:10 pm

Yesterday I dreamt I was on holiday with a bunch of people, and I wanted to take a bath but the bath was in the kitchen and everyone was making tea and sandwiches. I'd run the bath but I couldn't get in it. I had managed to take my shoes and socks off.
There was a girl scout meeting, apparetntly, and they ensured privacy by putting sticky tape over the doors to indicate they didn't want to be disturbed. I thought this was a cool idea and I'd finallu get my bath, but the sticky tape was in the room with the girl scouts so I couldn't get it. Also, my friend Dave had a talking dog, and nobody was supposed to know it talked. It kept forgetting nd saying things, but nobody except me noticed. The last thing it said before I woke up was "Don't forget my DVR".
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Re: Dreams

Postby aage on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:14 pm

I sometimes dream weird scenarios (not usual dream scenarios but boring RL scenarios) involving people I know for about two minutes, or eg. five lines of dialogue. Then weeks, months, in one case almost a year later, these scenarios actually play out. I hear the first line of dialogue, I recount my line from the dream and the other says the exact next line. Weird shit. At one point I dreamt I was chatting over some website I didn't recognize with a guy I barely knew, weeks later I made a facebook account and recognized the website, then all of a sudden this guy starts talking to me.
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Re: Dreams

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:16 pm

Is anyone familiar with tests about people waking up 1 minute before their alarm?
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Re: Dreams

Postby notyou2 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:26 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I can sometimes tell when I am dreaming, since I usually always have a specific article of clothing on or with me during my everyday life, but it doesn't seem to get translated to my dream self. So when I have noticed it was missing, I was vaguely aware that I was dreaming.

Edit: I also knew someone who had a prosthetic arm for most of his life, but he never dreamed himself with a prosthetic arm, it and his real arm were always missing. He always told me he knew when he was dreaming, if his arm wasn't there.


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Re: Dreams

Postby x-raider on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:58 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I can sometimes tell when I am dreaming, since I usually always have a specific article of clothing on or with me during my everyday life, but it doesn't seem to get translated to my dream self. So when I have noticed it was missing, I was vaguely aware that I was dreaming.
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Re: Dreams

Postby AAFitz on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:29 pm

Ill keep it short.

Riding at a ski area in a Gondola. I hear in the background a guy tell the driver to be careful. All of a sudden we tumble off a bridge and are falling, and falling. At first I was comfortable thinking I would survive, when it was clear those below me would not, but as it kept falling and falling, I did the math and realized there was no way to survive, so I aborted the dream.

The next one is a little bizzare, and was very lucid. Ill edit it though.

Basically it was body snatchers, except the transmission was through sinuses. Basically everyone went around smashing people in the nose to break the skin, and allow the infection in. I was immune, and was trying to save people that didnt realize what was going on. I had a few close calls where I almost got discovered, but the dream went on for a very long time. There was a scene where I tried to warn a group of guys with afros, but they didnt take the hint, though most of them fought back eventually and a few got away.

Ive been meditating(not really meditating as controlled breathing while repeating the word "peace"((the inner kind, not the world kind)) before falling asleep and have noticed a marked increase in lucid dreams, and mostly good ones. I also can control them a little bit without waking up until something gets out of control. In the above dream I specifically remember wanting to save my close friends, and sure enough, they started popping up in random places in the dream, and I tried to warn them. I seriously would have to estimate that the dream was a full 30 minutes, given my memory of so many of the details, that had to have taken that amount of time.

Cracked has a few articles about dreams and how to control them. Its worth looking up if dreams interest you.
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Re: Dreams

Postby AAFitz on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:31 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Is anyone familiar with tests about people waking up 1 minute before their alarm?


You gonna make this easy for us, or do what I did and just post that there was an article of importance on a website somewhere? :D

Through the wormhole with Morgan Freeman has a lot of examples of similar tests, some of which are mind-blowing. Its where I got the idea for the meditation, and while it could easily be placebo...the effects are quite real, and remarkable to be honest.
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Re: Dreams

Postby AAFitz on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:37 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
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BigBallinStalin wrote:"when I opened teh door the T-Rex eye from Jurassic Park was there so I went back to class"

A wise decision.




Speaking of decision-making, how many people in here can (somewhat) consciously make decisions during their dreams?

For example, can you alter the flow of your dream? Can you get out of your director's chair and say, "All right, all right! Enough of this silliness! Let's move on."


I've had the illusion of making decisions in my dreams, but I don't know they are real ones. I'm skeptical of other people who say they can do that.


While dreaming, are you of the position that the dreamer exerts no control over the dream and/or over his/her role in the dream?


I don't know enough to have a position. It might be possible, but I'm still skeptical of people who say they have consciously controlled their dream.

I can remember one dream in which I was aware that I was dreaming. I thought it was lucid (ie, that I had control), but when I woke up, I realized that what I had control over was utter nonsense. All I remember about it is that I had control over the number of syllables (and yes, that's supposed to be vague). I think it was a verbal dream – there were no visuals. I was immersed in another language at the time, and I was having quite a few purely verbal dreams.


Cracked has an article about this, and people who play lots of video games are even more able to do it, as they are used to managing fantasy actions. I absolutely know I can guide my dreams to some extent, and lately have been very close to conscious while having them, but definitely do not have absolute control either. Its a give and take relationship where I am willing it to go in one direction, and it kind of does, but will often throw a curve ball in at the same time. I suppose I could have been dreaming the conscious part, but given my memory of it, and the level of lucidity, I know I had some control for sure. I certainly do not question that some have trained themselves to exert quite a bit of control, though, I feel like that is a dangerous thing to do to some degree, because at some point, the two realities, have to become a little blurred.
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Re: Dreams

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:19 am

AAFitz wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:"when I opened teh door the T-Rex eye from Jurassic Park was there so I went back to class"

A wise decision.




Speaking of decision-making, how many people in here can (somewhat) consciously make decisions during their dreams?

For example, can you alter the flow of your dream? Can you get out of your director's chair and say, "All right, all right! Enough of this silliness! Let's move on."


I've had the illusion of making decisions in my dreams, but I don't know they are real ones. I'm skeptical of other people who say they can do that.


While dreaming, are you of the position that the dreamer exerts no control over the dream and/or over his/her role in the dream?


I don't know enough to have a position. It might be possible, but I'm still skeptical of people who say they have consciously controlled their dream.

I can remember one dream in which I was aware that I was dreaming. I thought it was lucid (ie, that I had control), but when I woke up, I realized that what I had control over was utter nonsense. All I remember about it is that I had control over the number of syllables (and yes, that's supposed to be vague). I think it was a verbal dream – there were no visuals. I was immersed in another language at the time, and I was having quite a few purely verbal dreams.


Cracked has an article about this, and people who play lots of video games are even more able to do it, as they are used to managing fantasy actions. I absolutely know I can guide my dreams to some extent, and lately have been very close to conscious while having them, but definitely do not have absolute control either. Its a give and take relationship where I am willing it to go in one direction, and it kind of does, but will often throw a curve ball in at the same time. I suppose I could have been dreaming the conscious part, but given my memory of it, and the level of lucidity, I know I had some control for sure. I certainly do not question that some have trained themselves to exert quite a bit of control, though, I feel like that is a dangerous thing to do to some degree, because at some point, the two realities, have to become a little blurred.


It may distort your memory, but other than that you'll be fine! :D
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:26 am

I hope I dream about this.
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