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Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [CLOSED] KRK

Postby maxfaraday on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:44 pm

Accused:

Adolf Hitler1933

The accused is guilty of:

Being Multis
Bigotry

Comments:

Multis have a very distinctive smell, and I'm smelling it right now.
For the bigotry part, I don't know exactly what CC's policy on usernames is, but Adolf Hitler1933? I don't think this should be allowed.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry

Postby betiko on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:49 pm

lol for the multi part. respect if you're right about it! he just joined and you aren't in his games.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby Karl_R_Kroenen on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:58 pm

Currently, the account looks CLEAR for the Multi accusation.

Determining the username...
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:20 pm

Yeah, let's expunge Hitler's name from every history book and scrap all the WW2 maps on here in the process :roll:

It's a wargaming site for Christ's sake. If someone wants to wear a target on his back by calling himself Adolf what's the problem? Or should we only use monikers such as Pink Fluffy Bunny etc?
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby rishaed on Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:18 pm

IT is intentional from his Username though, 1933 was the year Hitler became Chancellor of Germany. In other words it was the year that he rose to power. He inactted the Nürnburg laws two years later (1935ish) which were his stepping stones for his "other" programs. So yes, people can take offense at the username. And its because its CC/ and a public site that they need to be harsh on this. You can pick just about any username you want that don't include Hitler, or others from Nazi Germany. ITS because its free, public, and a site where there aren't millions of users, that finding an acceptable username for both yourself and the community should be relatively easy.
It casts a bad light on CC in general if they let him keep it IMHO.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby Frox333 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:01 am

rishaed wrote:IT is intentional from his Username though, 1933 was the year Hitler became Chancellor of Germany. In other words it was the year that he rose to power. He inactted the Nürnburg laws two years later (1935ish) which were his stepping stones for his "other" programs. So yes, people can take offense at the username. And its because its CC/ and a public site that they need to be harsh on this. You can pick just about any username you want that don't include Hitler, or others from Nazi Germany. ITS because its free, public, and a site where there aren't millions of users, that finding an acceptable username for both yourself and the community should be relatively easy.
It casts a bad light on CC in general if they let him keep it IMHO.


i agree with rishaed on this one, this man's username is unacceptable and terrible . if any1 thinks different, i can have a history lesson with you about hitler's actions. any1???
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby smegal69 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:41 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Yeah, let's expunge Hitler's name from every history book and scrap all the WW2 maps on here in the process :roll:

It's a wargaming site for Christ's sake. If someone wants to wear a target on his back by calling himself Adolf what's the problem? Or should we only use monikers such as Pink Fluffy Bunny etc?


100% agree with you there COF


But if that name has to Go, Why stop there... why not add Mad Hitler, LebaneseHitler,Not Hitler

Why just stop at Hitler, there are other's, What's one have to do to get in that club...... kill a few million?? if that is the case we better add.....
BigBallstalin, heil stalin, Comrade Stalin8, ...... wait there is more
General Mao, LittleMao

How much Innocent blood has this guy got on his hands? should we not ban his name also??? GeorgeW.Bush

hang on, there One Other (sometime he is by other name's) but Millions have died because of him (or her)
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby clangfield on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:56 am

Personally I find this comical rather than offensive. On a technicality, I don't believe it's bigotry to call oneself a name; it only becomes so if one propounds the views that the name embodies. Extending smegal69's point (and should that be banned because '69' could be seen as rude?), we'd have to lose anyone who mentions any conquerors - Attila, Ghengis, Caesar, any mention of warlords, kings, knights, fighting, death (eg deathcomesrippin - that's a bit aggressive, isn't it?) etc etc. And wasn't it the Jews who killed Jesus... one could go on.
One has to bear in mind, though, that youngsters are able to view the site: I find names like this far less offensive and worrying that those involving the "beyond the Pale" swear words (namely those beginning with f, c, and n).
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby cookie0117 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:17 am

Its been said many times but generally not accepted but there has to be some form of intent behind a comment to make it bigotry. If offence was meant by the use of name then its not cool, if it is just that offence has been taken that does not mean the accused has done anything wrong.

Everyone has things they don't like or are offended by. Don't go and look for it, if you don't like it. You can not warp the world to your specific standards and views without offending someone else. As the desire to stamp out anything you don't like is in itself abit bigoted (from Wikipedia):
Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, socioeconomic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, political alignment, race, region, religious or spiritual belief, sex, or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby Qwert on Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:28 am

If these guy have some quite good and logical explanation why he decide to be Adolf Hitler, then i dont have nothing against these name.
But if he want to celebrate Adolf Hitler name and date when he become kancelar then he are not normal.
Please C&A Mods to try to get answer from these person, so that we all know what are motive for these name.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:14 am

smegal69 wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:Yeah, let's expunge Hitler's name from every history book and scrap all the WW2 maps on here in the process :roll:

It's a wargaming site for Christ's sake. If someone wants to wear a target on his back by calling himself Adolf what's the problem? Or should we only use monikers such as Pink Fluffy Bunny etc?


100% agree with you there COF


But if that name has to Go, Why stop there... why not add Mad Hitler, LebaneseHitler,Not Hitler

Why just stop at Hitler, there are other's, What's one have to do to get in that club...... kill a few million?? if that is the case we better add.....
BigBallstalin, heil stalin, Comrade Stalin8, ...... wait there is more
General Mao, LittleMao

How much Innocent blood has this guy got on his hands? should we not ban his name also??? GeorgeW.Bush

hang on, there One Other (sometime he is by other name's) but Millions have died because of him (or her)
Soldier4Christ, DB4Christ ,lordchristo, and any other religious names

You forgot Deng Xiao Ping.

And quite frankly, I don't know why qwert isn't upset by billclinton13, named after the man who authorized the firebombing of Belgrade.

If qwert is upset about Hitler's treatment of Jews, perhaps he is also outraged by the anti-Semiticism of King Henry III who initially resolved to rid England of Jews, but eventually decided that levying rapacious surtaxes on them would be sufficient.

Why not ban shakazulu78, named after a tyrant who organised genocides of neighbouring tribes?

Is not everyone outraged that our fine website is visited by the butcher Robespierre__?

Seriously. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby grifftron on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:59 am

cookie0117

This username should also be changed... cookies are bad for your health. He is advertising bad health.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby betiko on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:13 am

Dukasaur wrote:
smegal69 wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:Yeah, let's expunge Hitler's name from every history book and scrap all the WW2 maps on here in the process :roll:

It's a wargaming site for Christ's sake. If someone wants to wear a target on his back by calling himself Adolf what's the problem? Or should we only use monikers such as Pink Fluffy Bunny etc?


100% agree with you there COF


But if that name has to Go, Why stop there... why not add Mad Hitler, LebaneseHitler,Not Hitler

Why just stop at Hitler, there are other's, What's one have to do to get in that club...... kill a few million?? if that is the case we better add.....
BigBallstalin, heil stalin, Comrade Stalin8, ...... wait there is more
General Mao, LittleMao

How much Innocent blood has this guy got on his hands? should we not ban his name also??? GeorgeW.Bush

hang on, there One Other (sometime he is by other name's) but Millions have died because of him (or her)
Soldier4Christ, DB4Christ ,lordchristo, and any other religious names

You forgot Deng Xiao Ping.

And quite frankly, I don't know why qwert isn't upset by billclinton13, named after the man who authorized the firebombing of Belgrade.

If qwert is upset about Hitler's treatment of Jews, perhaps he is also outraged by the anti-Semiticism of King Henry III who initially resolved to rid England of Jews, but eventually decided that levying rapacious surtaxes on them would be sufficient.

Why not ban shakazulu78, named after a tyrant who organised genocides of neighbouring tribes?

Is not everyone outraged that our fine website is visited by the butcher Robespierre__?

Seriously. :roll: :roll: :roll:


how dare you compare Robespierre with Hitler? He brought democracy, fought against slavery, death sentence, fought for human rights and to let black and jews vote...
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:35 am

betiko wrote:how dare you compare Robespierre with Hitler? He brought democracy, fought against slavery, death sentence, fought for human rights and to let black and jews vote...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_terror
On 5 February 1794 Robespierre stated, more succinctly that, "Terror is nothing else than justice, prompt, severe, inflexible."[19]
“ The government in a revolution is the despotism of liberty against tyranny. ”

— Maximilien Robespierre, 1794[20]

The result was policy through which the state used violent repression to crush resistance to the government. Under control of the effectively dictatorial Committee, the Convention quickly enacted more legislation. On 9 September the Convention established sans-culottes paramilitary forces, the revolutionary armies, to force farmers to surrender grain demanded by the government. On 17 September the Law of Suspects was passed, which authorized the charging of counter-revolutionaries with vaguely defined crimes against liberty. On 29 September the Convention extended price-fixing from grain and bread to other essential goods, and also fixed wages. The guillotine became the symbol of a string of executions: Louis XVI had already been guillotined before the start of the terror; Marie-Antoinette, the Girondists, Philippe Égalité, Madame Roland and many others lost their lives under its blade.

The Revolutionary Tribunal summarily condemned thousands of people to death by the guillotine, while mobs beat other victims to death. Sometimes people died for their political opinions or actions, but many for little reason beyond mere suspicion, or because some others had a stake in getting rid of them.

Among people who were condemned by the revolutionary tribunals, about 8 percent were aristocrats, 6 percent clergy, 14 percent middle class, and 72 percent were workers or peasants accused of hoarding, evading the draft, desertion, rebellion.[21] Maximilien Robespierre, "frustrated with the progress of the revolution,"[22] saw politics in a rather tyrannical way because "any institution which does not suppose the people good, and the magistrate corruptible, is evil."[23]

All tyrants are united by the basic idea that the public good justifies killing opponents. Robespierre's victims may have only been in the tens of thousands, while Hitler's exceeded ten million, but their basic presumption -- to end the lives of others to impose a new social order -- is the same.

And thus ends my digression here. If you want to continue this, take it to Shroedinger's Catbox.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby Qwert on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:59 am

Dukasaur wrote:
smegal69 wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:Yeah, let's expunge Hitler's name from every history book and scrap all the WW2 maps on here in the process :roll:

It's a wargaming site for Christ's sake. If someone wants to wear a target on his back by calling himself Adolf what's the problem? Or should we only use monikers such as Pink Fluffy Bunny etc?


100% agree with you there COF


But if that name has to Go, Why stop there... why not add Mad Hitler, LebaneseHitler,Not Hitler

Why just stop at Hitler, there are other's, What's one have to do to get in that club...... kill a few million?? if that is the case we better add.....
BigBallstalin, heil stalin, Comrade Stalin8, ...... wait there is more
General Mao, LittleMao

How much Innocent blood has this guy got on his hands? should we not ban his name also??? GeorgeW.Bush

hang on, there One Other (sometime he is by other name's) but Millions have died because of him (or her)
Soldier4Christ, DB4Christ ,lordchristo, and any other religious names

You forgot Deng Xiao Ping.

And quite frankly, I don't know why qwert isn't upset by billclinton13, named after the man who authorized the firebombing of Belgrade.

If qwert is upset about Hitler's treatment of Jews, perhaps he is also outraged by the anti-Semiticism of King Henry III who initially resolved to rid England of Jews, but eventually decided that levying rapacious surtaxes on them would be sufficient.

Why not ban shakazulu78, named after a tyrant who organised genocides of neighbouring tribes?

Is not everyone outraged that our fine website is visited by the butcher Robespierre__?

Seriously. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Its US law here, do you honestly belive that mine complain against bilclinton will be accepted?
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby 40kguy on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:30 pm

smegal69 wrote:


How much Innocent blood has this guy got on his hands? should we not ban his name also??? GeorgeW.Bush



To some people this username may be more offensive than Adolf Hitler. He started wars in the middle east and everyone over there probably hates him. He's better than Hitler, but many people probably still hate him.

I'm Jewish and the name Hitler doesn't offend me anymore than the name George. As long as the guy doesn't start preaching, there should be no problem.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby tkr4lf on Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:24 pm

I love the Middle Easy, it's very beautiful there.
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Re: Adolf Hitler1933 multi and bigotry [PENDING] KRK

Postby betiko on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:03 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
betiko wrote:how dare you compare Robespierre with Hitler? He brought democracy, fought against slavery, death sentence, fought for human rights and to let black and jews vote...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_terror
On 5 February 1794 Robespierre stated, more succinctly that, "Terror is nothing else than justice, prompt, severe, inflexible."[19]
“ The government in a revolution is the despotism of liberty against tyranny. ”

— Maximilien Robespierre, 1794[20]

The result was policy through which the state used violent repression to crush resistance to the government. Under control of the effectively dictatorial Committee, the Convention quickly enacted more legislation. On 9 September the Convention established sans-culottes paramilitary forces, the revolutionary armies, to force farmers to surrender grain demanded by the government. On 17 September the Law of Suspects was passed, which authorized the charging of counter-revolutionaries with vaguely defined crimes against liberty. On 29 September the Convention extended price-fixing from grain and bread to other essential goods, and also fixed wages. The guillotine became the symbol of a string of executions: Louis XVI had already been guillotined before the start of the terror; Marie-Antoinette, the Girondists, Philippe Égalité, Madame Roland and many others lost their lives under its blade.

The Revolutionary Tribunal summarily condemned thousands of people to death by the guillotine, while mobs beat other victims to death. Sometimes people died for their political opinions or actions, but many for little reason beyond mere suspicion, or because some others had a stake in getting rid of them.

Among people who were condemned by the revolutionary tribunals, about 8 percent were aristocrats, 6 percent clergy, 14 percent middle class, and 72 percent were workers or peasants accused of hoarding, evading the draft, desertion, rebellion.[21] Maximilien Robespierre, "frustrated with the progress of the revolution,"[22] saw politics in a rather tyrannical way because "any institution which does not suppose the people good, and the magistrate corruptible, is evil."[23]

All tyrants are united by the basic idea that the public good justifies killing opponents. Robespierre's victims may have only been in the tens of thousands, while Hitler's exceeded ten million, but their basic presumption -- to end the lives of others to impose a new social order -- is the same.

And thus ends my digression here. If you want to continue this, take it to Shroedinger's Catbox.


he is definitely a controversial character in french history; The french monarchy was a tyrany though that had lasted over 1500 years. Stuff got out of hands the first years when they took over, some nobles that were decent guys and apreciated in their region got blindly targeted. I've had some of these conversations with a friend that is Marquis and another that is Count.
But can you really compare him with someone who went for ethnic epuration, mass torture, created concentration camps to effectively erradicate all races that were not worth living acording to him?
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