[Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

[edocsil]

I find it a little odd that I had to die as a survivor for someone else to win. Anyhow, good to know I wasn't killed for no reason. good game all.

[Iron Butterfly]

Bahahaha, I'm sorta upset now... Have been since my death scene.

You are Nyarlathotep; the Crawling Chaos, the God of a Thousand Forms.
The only Outer God currently walking the earth, sowing chaos and plotting on humans for your amusement.
You appear in many shapes, most of which bring mind-shattering horror to lesser beings, but one that you use frequently is that of a dark Egyptian pharaoh-like man, with this form you play your strange alien devices, drawing followers deep into madness.

Abilities
Cult recruiter: can recruit humans into your cult, but will die if targeting an unsealed elder god
Immune to death by normal human means

You win if cult outnumbers the total of non-recruited players, you do not have to survive to achieve this.

As you can see, it did not say I was to be killed in the "red" colour so I had hoped I was 3rd party at least.

But my biggest disappointment were my own teammates, I was COMPLETELY powerless besides being able to recruit, and only recruit humans at that! I told them this and Commander9 said he would talk to New Guy to get him to joint with us, obviously he never did and he blamed me for that.

Then we had that Vodean incident which at first I was pissed at Doom because when Vodean died he was not showing as he was with us, but once he flipped I was pissed at Vodean for pulling his little stunt.

Commander might accuse me of gamethrowing, but as you could see my reluctance to say all of the cult members (PCM) almost paid off.

I feel I was a bit underpowered with being able to die against an unknown enemy AND the yith being able to find me so easily. But even with my underpower I did offer a legit offer to all of those alive at the time and we could have had way more winners. As you can see, the "town" faction wasn't worth fighting for. 3 people. I could have converted them easily.

Finally, when it was taking you all so long to lynch Hippo, I was laughing my ass off because I would have hung him there back around Day 7 or 8, whichever one he pretty much outed himself on. I even gave you all the pieces about the Elder Gods that you'd need to figure out that he wasn't good news.

But yeah, had fun playing this game Next time I hope my role is a bit more powerful than being outed within 3-4 game days >.<

Jak if you had not been so aggressive towards me about the difference between Outer Gods and Old Ones you may have lasted longer. It was your push that made me delve deeper into the scenes and pick apart your story.

I think I chose to worship new guy around day 5 or 6. I tied my win condition to the yith surviving...you would think I would have just shut up....lol nope helping kill elder gods was more fun.

[new guy1]

I can be worshiped? Hmm, who knew? Well if you guys worship me then we should win the game, right?

Also, I totally called this. Around day three or four, I brought up the thought that we could be worshipped with comm and New Guy, but neither really responded to it.

I knew I could be, I just figured if I said I knew I could I would get lynched, so I acted like I was oblivious.

Also, Im surprised at all the people who actually believed our role was so powerful and yet all we needed to do was survive and I think that was our greatest weakness, that the players wouldnt believe that we were being honest.

[betiko]

I think that jak had a point when he outed himself, and all his cult mates should ve outed themselves and helped him convince us. the math was good! I personally thought untill endgame he inflated the number by 1. He kind of made a contradictory statement or 2 that made me back off at some point regarding the number of recruted players and how they all got recruited. I think the recruits were very smart. a reviver a yith, 2 unaligned... with all those powers you could convince lots of factions, and you were far from underpowered with all that help..

rodion: regarding your WC I don't know, I just needed PCM to die and / told me that once killed my insanity WC became irrelevant, so maybe it's the same with the zombie WC once you die..

IB: when we were masoned were you already yith aligned? dude you became really paranoid and uncooperative, we could've worked something, and your reactions made me really suspicious about your motives.

and yes yith; no one had any interest in killing you, that was strange. Maybe the only downside of your role was that you could be killed by accident, like what happened to kanin.

so what the hell were elder things and the shogoth up to??

strike was holding the book, but what was his WC?

[safariguy5]

I have to say, the amount of non town roles and the apparent lack of town players made it difficult for me to figure out who to trust. As for the insanity-proof thing, I felt it was best just to play it safe and not ask yog anything for fear of changing alignment even if I wasn't going to go insane with a PR.

Very interesting game, the fact that I was possessed multiple times made it a bit frustrating in the middle part of the game.

[rishaed]

I must say though, I was probably intrumental in keeping Hippo alive, Me letting town know what his abilities were was instrumental in us picking Him over Witt. . . though he was insanely scummy, the information was from a confirmed 3rd party, so it was believable. More so than Witt.

[pancakemix]

Damn you, Jak, for recruiting me the night before I would have won.

I had considered teling Nendreel about the recruitment, but I decided not to since I wasn't exposed. I thought with him alive I'd have better credentials. I also figured if I sold the "I already won" thing hard enough I could eke it out. In hindsight, lynching hippo was a mistake, for how hard I pushed it. Ultimately, it would have been three days of trying to argue that I wasn't scum after the only people left were resurrected town (which I didn't really want Nendreel to do. I REALLY should have told him...)

[betiko]

Damn you, Jak, for recruiting me the night before I would have won.

I had considered teling Nendreel about the recruitment, but I decided not to since I wasn't exposed. I thought with him alive I'd have better credentials. I also figured if I sold the "I already won" thing hard enough I could eke it out. In hindsight, lynching hippo was a mistake, for how hard I pushed it. Ultimately, it would have been three days of trying to argue that I wasn't scum after the only people left were resurrected town (which I didn't really want Nendreel to do. I REALLY should have told him...)

I had an agreement with soundman to kill you whatever happened the next day. not sure he wanted to still go for it after he figured out I was insane, I was a serial killer, and I was hippo aligned. Nevertheless, he could've seen I hadn't lied in anything and that I was even agreed to go for hippo (being my alignment, what he descovered the next morning) just to make sure you would be killed. I don't know if I should've told soundman my WC regarding killing all non revived humans..
But you should've pushed somehow on the safari option. The only insanity proof character being the one with cold feet to become insane seriously?? As a spectator, I was thinking that if ever there was a cult left it was probably him. even now it soesn't make any sense to me. Also safari, what was this wrong alignment thing you gave to rishaed?
Also rishaed, I realized the serial killer could only be you on the nice day when you proposed this awesome plan; get jonty and PCM night killed. You definitely were going to kill me and acheive the same WC... I should ve speaken up. But you should've talked to / to ask him if you were still hippo aligned or not. You did quite some harm to the hippo faction at some point as you were directly pointing fingers at him instead of going with the flow if you really had to. Pretty fucked up that being both the exact same thing we couldn't work together... But if we actually had to kill all humans, we needed to actually finish killing each other? seems logical..

[rishaed]

Yeah, I was trying to. . . I thought my only way to win was the SK condition, because it came after I worshipped hippo. Thus I was trying to end the game on a day where I could sic town on you for being the SK, by saying I "cop'd" you. Seeing as you admitted to killing people under the guise of a vig, I figured they would take my word over yours. That didn't happen, then I saw that If only i could convince you to kill PCM for me then I could end it on a night, however I knew that for the other SK i was basically exposing myself, and thus it became very risky for me.

[betiko]

Yeah, I was trying to. . . I thought my only way to win was the SK condition, because it came after I worshipped hippo. Thus I was trying to end the game on a day where I could sic town on you for being the SK, by saying I "cop'd" you. Seeing as you admitted to killing people under the guise of a vig, I figured they would take my word over yours. That didn't happen, then I saw that If only i could convince you to kill PCM for me then I could end it on a night, however I knew that for the other SK i was basically exposing myself, and thus it became very risky for me.

you never came up with good explanations on all your night actions. I carefully selected all my targets all game long and I said nothing but the truth being 100% cooperative. Not to mention the proofs that there was another SK killing townies (you!!!!!). I've actually technically worked as a vig and did nothing to harm town (had no reason to, they were all revived). Even killed elder things and a cult zombie. I doubt you could've matched my town credit any day..

[jak111]

Well the Yith was by accident and we had no clue how we culted him originally. So I wasn't all that powerful Betiko Though yeah, I wish I had help from them when I was pretty much dead on correct on having a majority win achievable.

Just to put it into perspective for everyone, if you had listened to me when the chance was there instead of only Spiesr, safari, Newguy, soundman, Kanin, (and Iron B I think?) winning.

It would have been all of the above, plus all the cult, plus all unaligned humans. The only ones who would have lost would be Hippo, Elon, Elder Things, Little Witt v1, and depending on Nendreel's win condition him.

Hehe, so how do people feel now with hindsight?

[Nendreel]

you never came up with good explanations on all your night actions. I carefully selected all my targets all game long and I said nothing but the truth being 100% cooperative. Not to mention the proofs that there was another SK killing townies (you!!!!!). I've actually technically worked as a vig and did nothing to harm town (had no reason to, they were all revived). Even killed elder things and a cult zombie. I doubt you could've matched my town credit any day..

For the longest time I couldn't figure out what either of you were. That you let Doom live for so long meant that neither of you were Vigs, or trying to act as a Vig. But then neither of you took a shot at me which an SK would want to do right away.

It would have been all of the above, plus all the cult, plus all unaligned humans. The only ones who would have lost would be Hippo, Elon, Elder Things, Little Witt v1, and depending on Nendreel's win condition him.

Hehe, so how do people feel now with hindsight?

My WC was that I needed to re-animate 4 people. When you made your offer I only had 2/4. Your deal would have left me out in the cold unless we came up with a way to kill recruits for me to re-animate.

[rishaed]

you never came up with good explanations on all your night actions. I carefully selected all my targets all game long and I said nothing but the truth being 100% cooperative. Not to mention the proofs that there was another SK killing townies (you!!!!!). I've actually technically worked as a vig and did nothing to harm town (had no reason to, they were all revived). Even killed elder things and a cult zombie. I doubt you could've matched my town credit any day..

For the longest time I couldn't figure out what either of you were. That you let Doom live for so long meant that neither of you were Vigs, or trying to act as a Vig. But then neither of you took a shot at me which an SK would want to do right away.

We only had to kill those who hadn't died yet. So neither me nor Betiko were going to kill you off right away, it'd be immediately scummy, and it widened the amount of perspective targets to those who weren't an SK or knew who the win condition was.
As for my night actions sure I did, I gave them out choosing carefully for things that would make sense and couldn't be verified one way or the other. I was one of the only ones to give you a night action.

[betiko]

Well the Yith was by accident and we had no clue how we culted him originally. So I wasn't all that powerful Betiko Though yeah, I wish I had help from them when I was pretty much dead on correct on having a majority win achievable.

Just to put it into perspective for everyone, if you had listened to me when the chance was there instead of only Spiesr, safari, Newguy, soundman, Kanin, (and Iron B I think?) winning.

It would have been all of the above, plus all the cult, plus all unaligned humans. The only ones who would have lost would be Hippo, Elon, Elder Things, Little Witt v1, and depending on Nendreel's win condition him.

Hehe, so how do people feel now with hindsight?

I think that most probably hippo, myself and rishaed also won almost sure hippo got his WC, IB won too.

If jonty piggy backed on me, i guess he was on my SK WC that aparently is not counted, he is not hippo aligned as myself aparently.

oh and rodion possibly won too.

[betiko]

you never came up with good explanations on all your night actions. I carefully selected all my targets all game long and I said nothing but the truth being 100% cooperative. Not to mention the proofs that there was another SK killing townies (you!!!!!). I've actually technically worked as a vig and did nothing to harm town (had no reason to, they were all revived). Even killed elder things and a cult zombie. I doubt you could've matched my town credit any day..

For the longest time I couldn't figure out what either of you were. That you let Doom live for so long meant that neither of you were Vigs, or trying to act as a Vig. But then neither of you took a shot at me which an SK would want to do right away.

We only had to kill those who hadn't died yet. So neither me nor Betiko were going to kill you off right away, it'd be immediately scummy, and it widened the amount of perspective targets to those who weren't an SK or knew who the win condition was.
As for my night actions sure I did, I gave them out choosing carefully for things that would make sense and couldn't be verified one way or the other. I was one of the only ones to give you a night action.

yes, we didn't care at all if you revived players and killing you would've been way too scummy. I don't know why the hell hippo killed you though...