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PLAYER57832 wrote:No, the giist is that the CBO is full of ... sh*t, so ignore them.
rdsrds2120 wrote:We have to hide this thread before Scotty gets back, haha.
BMO
BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:No, the giist is that the CBO is full of ... sh*t, so ignore them.
Exactly, but the people who won't ignore them are the ones who should.
PLAYER57832 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:No, the giist is that the CBO is full of ... sh*t, so ignore them.
Exactly, but the people who won't ignore them are the ones who should.
No, the folks who want to criticize need to come up with better data --- or at least pay attention to what the data actually says instead of what they want to claim it says..
And I don't agree that CBO data is garbage, its just limited in its scope.
greenoaks wrote:rdsrds2120 wrote:We have to hide this thread before Scotty gets back, haha.
BMO
or keep the thread and don't let Scotty back
BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, correcting for the rosy predictions using modest assumptions reveals terrible outcomes which may occur 20 years sooner than the CBO predicted.
BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:No, the giist is that the CBO is full of ... sh*t, so ignore them.
Exactly, but the people who won't ignore them are the ones who should.
No, the folks who want to criticize need to come up with better data --- or at least pay attention to what the data actually says instead of what they want to claim it says..
And I don't agree that CBO data is garbage, its just limited in its scope.
Oh, sure, can't say anything until you spend millions of dollars collecting original data. Makes total sense.
I'd love for you to expand on that.
Fruitcake wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, correcting for the rosy predictions using modest assumptions reveals terrible outcomes which may occur 20 years sooner than the CBO predicted.
I may be wrong but it all looks pretty imminent.
BBS, what do you think should happen to stop this from occurring?
Fruitcake wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, correcting for the rosy predictions using modest assumptions reveals terrible outcomes which may occur 20 years sooner than the CBO predicted.
I may be wrong but it all looks pretty imminent.
BBS, what do you think should happen to stop this from occurring?
PLAYER57832 wrote:Fruitcake wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, correcting for the rosy predictions using modest assumptions reveals terrible outcomes which may occur 20 years sooner than the CBO predicted.
I may be wrong but it all looks pretty imminent.
BBS, what do you think should happen to stop this from occurring?
He cannot give the real answer, because the real answer lies in understanding that the very basis of any economy is its natural resources... and that most projections in that forum have been grossly misrepresented.
Also, too many economic projections try to hold things like technological fixes as either assumed or irrelevant, without considering how those fixes really come about.
BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Fruitcake wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, correcting for the rosy predictions using modest assumptions reveals terrible outcomes which may occur 20 years sooner than the CBO predicted.
I may be wrong but it all looks pretty imminent.
BBS, what do you think should happen to stop this from occurring?
He cannot give the real answer, because the real answer lies in understanding that the very basis of any economy is its natural resources... and that most projections in that forum have been grossly misrepresented.
Also, too many economic projections try to hold things like technological fixes as either assumed or irrelevant, without considering how those fixes really come about.
You've been failing to really provide any details of this new Rant of yours, so we can ignore it.
PLAYER57832 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Fruitcake wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, correcting for the rosy predictions using modest assumptions reveals terrible outcomes which may occur 20 years sooner than the CBO predicted.
I may be wrong but it all looks pretty imminent.
BBS, what do you think should happen to stop this from occurring?
He cannot give the real answer, because the real answer lies in understanding that the very basis of any economy is its natural resources... and that most projections in that forum have been grossly misrepresented.
Also, too many economic projections try to hold things like technological fixes as either assumed or irrelevant, without considering how those fixes really come about.
You've been failing to really provide any details of this new Rant of yours, so we can ignore it.
Like I said ... you cannot give a real answer.
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saxitoxin wrote:What about the notorious ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra- .... ultra-ultra ... ultra-right-wing radio network, NPR and the super-super-super-super ... super ... super-fascist magazine The Atlantic?Disability Insurance: America's $124 Billion Secret Welfare Program
Social Security's disability insurance program, which over 20 years has quietly morphed into one of the largest, yet least talked about, pieces of the social safety net. Since the early 1990s, the number of former workers receiving payments under it has more than doubled to about 8.5 million, as shown in Planet Money's graph below. More than five percent of all eligible adults are now on the rolls, up from around 3 percent twenty years ago. Add in children and spouses who also get checks, and the grand tally comes to 11.5 million.
Are disabilities just becoming more common? According to economists such as MIT's David Autor, the evidence says no. Instead, it seems two things have happened: Qualifying for disability got easier, and finding work got harder.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc ... am/274302/
Player wrote:After 2 years, the employment rates, hiring rates, etc go back to at least what they were before.
saxitoxin wrote:What about the notorious ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra- .... ultra-ultra ... ultra-right-wing radio network, NPR and the super-super-super-super ... super ... super-fascist magazine The Atlantic?Disability Insurance: America's $124 Billion Secret Welfare Program
Social Security's disability insurance program, which over 20 years has quietly morphed into one of the largest, yet least talked about, pieces of the social safety net. Since the early 1990s, the number of former workers receiving payments under it has more than doubled to about 8.5 million, as shown in Planet Money's graph below. More than five percent of all eligible adults are now on the rolls, up from around 3 percent twenty years ago. Add in children and spouses who also get checks, and the grand tally comes to 11.5 million.
Are disabilities just becoming more common? According to economists such as MIT's David Autor, the evidence says no. Instead, it seems two things have happened: Qualifying for disability got easier, and finding work got harder.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc ... am/274302/
Lootifer wrote:saxitoxin wrote:What about the notorious ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra- .... ultra-ultra ... ultra-right-wing radio network, NPR and the super-super-super-super ... super ... super-fascist magazine The Atlantic?Disability Insurance: America's $124 Billion Secret Welfare Program
Social Security's disability insurance program, which over 20 years has quietly morphed into one of the largest, yet least talked about, pieces of the social safety net. Since the early 1990s, the number of former workers receiving payments under it has more than doubled to about 8.5 million, as shown in Planet Money's graph below. More than five percent of all eligible adults are now on the rolls, up from around 3 percent twenty years ago. Add in children and spouses who also get checks, and the grand tally comes to 11.5 million.
Are disabilities just becoming more common? According to economists such as MIT's David Autor, the evidence says no. Instead, it seems two things have happened: Qualifying for disability got easier, and finding work got harder.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc ... am/274302/
Hehehe, I do love a very simple rhetoric on what is a very complicated scenario.
Gogo gadget american politics democracy!.
Fruitcake wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Fruitcake wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, correcting for the rosy predictions using modest assumptions reveals terrible outcomes which may occur 20 years sooner than the CBO predicted.
I may be wrong but it all looks pretty imminent.
BBS, what do you think should happen to stop this from occurring?
He cannot give the real answer, because the real answer lies in understanding that the very basis of any economy is its natural resources... and that most projections in that forum have been grossly misrepresented.
Also, too many economic projections try to hold things like technological fixes as either assumed or irrelevant, without considering how those fixes really come about.
You've been failing to really provide any details of this new Rant of yours, so we can ignore it.
Like I said ... you cannot give a real answer.
Well, to be precise, I did not request a 'real' answer per se. I asked BBS what he thinks should happen to stop this from occurring. No matter, he has answered my question and given me food for thought.
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