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Lootifer wrote:Terrorists sell more papers.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Where, oh where, are our Glorious Technocrats to set everything right?
Lootifer wrote:(and this isnt just a matter of a lazy tradesman skipping a vital step; part of good safety is ensuring that even the laziest of tradesmen dont skip vital steps)
Lootifer wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Where, oh where, are our Glorious Technocrats to set everything right?
You can jest all you like; but through neglect and poor safety attitude we blew up 29 people a couple of years back, and you guys just blew up another 15 or so (6th major event in the last 8 years or so).
Each and every one of these was preventable using simple changes (some of which do cost money, but even financially the balance sheet still comes positive using hindsight).
Please free market forgive me for doubting you, but can you not please move a little bit faster? People are actually dying here.
(and this isnt just a matter of a lazy tradesman skipping a vital step; part of good safety is ensuring that even the laziest of tradesmen dont skip vital steps)
Juan_Bottom wrote::|
Last time it was inspected by OSHA was 1985.
Juan_Bottom wrote::|
Last time it was inspected by OSHA was 1985.
At my plant we have yearly safety education meetings that last about 2 hours. People literally sleep through it. At the end, you're given a safety and regulation quiz, with the answers to the safety and regulation quiz. It's some real professional pencil-whipping.... so...
Next thing you know, we got one moron mixing 5 gallons of straight acid with 10 gallons of chlorine (deadly mustard gas) "to create a super-cleaner," and another turkey removing safety guards and sticking his whole goddamn hand into a giant scissors without locking out the power source. Guess what happened to his hand? At least with the mustard gas nobody got hurt, we just froze our asses off in the parking lot in January.
Now we're kicking off our new "safety awareness week."
Juan_Bottom wrote::|
Last time it was inspected by OSHA was 1985.
At my plant we have yearly safety education meetings that last about 2 hours. People literally sleep through it. At the end, you're given a safety and regulation quiz, with the answers to the safety and regulation quiz. It's some real professional pencil-whipping.... so...
Next thing you know, we got one moron mixing 5 gallons of straight acid with 10 gallons of chlorine (deadly mustard gas) "to create a super-cleaner," and another turkey removing safety guards and sticking his whole goddamn hand into a giant scissors without locking out the power source. Guess what happened to his hand? At least with the mustard gas nobody got hurt, we just froze our asses off in the parking lot in January.
Now we're kicking off our new "safety awareness week."
BigBallinStalin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote::|
Last time it was inspected by OSHA was 1985.
If that's true, then it's not surprising given that OSHA has a monopoly on that trade.
I wonder if OSHA will be sued for any of this...
Lootifer wrote:See to me thats fucked up.
I am one of the [relative] safety skeptics in my organisation. However here I am arguing on this side of the debate...
Safety should be the number 1 priority in any [industrial/risk facing] organisation.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:wtf. I hope that moron mixing the shit was fired. I wonder how some people can be so fucking dense.
-TG
Juan_Bottom wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote::|
Last time it was inspected by OSHA was 1985.
If that's true, then it's not surprising given that OSHA has a monopoly on that trade.
I wonder if OSHA will be sued for any of this...
That's not true. OSHA doesn't have a monopoly on safety. They just set national federal guidelines and requirements.
Juan_Bottom wrote:You literally cannot have a monopoly on safety. I
BigBallinStalin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote::|
Last time it was inspected by OSHA was 1985.
If that's true, then it's not surprising given that OSHA has a monopoly on that trade.
I wonder if OSHA will be sued for any of this...
That's not true. OSHA doesn't have a monopoly on safety. They just set national federal guidelines and requirements.
So, they got a monopoly on that trade.
Anyway, do you think the State should be held culpable for failing to enough inspections?
notyou2 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote::|
Last time it was inspected by OSHA was 1985.
If that's true, then it's not surprising given that OSHA has a monopoly on that trade.
I wonder if OSHA will be sued for any of this...
That's not true. OSHA doesn't have a monopoly on safety. They just set national federal guidelines and requirements.
So, they got a monopoly on that trade.
Anyway, do you think the State should be held culpable for failing to enough inspections?
Does the government have a monopoly on the judicial system?
I say let free enterprise take over the judicial system.
Woodruff wrote:It's funny that we know almost everything about the Boston bombers but so little about the person or persons responsible for not conducting inspections, skirting inspections and stock piling this much fertilizer even though their actions killed and injured many more people.
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