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We're going to Mars

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:30 am

http://applicants.mars-one.com/

Apply within.


Mars 2023: Inhabitants Wanted
Mars One will establish a permanent human settlement on Mars. We invite you to participate by sharing our vision with your friends, and, perhaps, by becoming the next Mars astronaut yourself.

Mars One is a not-for-profit organization whose goal is to establish a human settlement on Mars through the integration of existing, readily available technologies from industry leaders world-wide. Mars One intends to fund this decade-long endeavor by involving the whole world as the audience of an interactive, televised broadcast of every aspect of this mission, from the astronaut selections and their preparations to the arrival on Mars and their lives on the Red Planet.


But remember - this is a one-way trip.

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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby TeeGee on Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:55 am

Just saw this on TV here.... wonder what speed internet they will have...
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:35 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:Mars One intends to fund this decade-long endeavor by involving the whole world as the audience of an interactive, televised broadcast of every aspect of this mission, from the astronaut selections and their preparations to the arrival on Mars and their lives on the Red Planet.


Not sure how I feel about: Mars: The reality game show
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:14 am

I'm concerned about the type of people that would be willing to take a one-way trip to Mars.

"Hey, smart scientist guy. Want to go to Mars?"
"Can I come back?"
"Nope"
"f*ck no!"

"Hey, crazy loner guy. Want to go to Mars?"
"Can I say there forever?"
"Yes."
"f*ck yes!"
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby patches70 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:16 am

I think Juan would be a great candidate to go to Mars! Toss Player and Woodruff in as well. Mets should definitely go too. It'd be an experience of a lifetime. To boldly go where no man has gone before. Hell, look at Woodruffs avatar, he most definitely should be going, Spock would.
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby MegaProphet on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:29 am

TeeGee wrote:Just saw this on TV here.... wonder what speed internet they will have...

It'll be a six minute delay from Earth
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:39 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Mars One intends to fund this decade-long endeavor by involving the whole world as the audience of an interactive, televised broadcast of every aspect of this mission, from the astronaut selections and their preparations to the arrival on Mars and their lives on the Red Planet.


Not sure how I feel about: Mars: The reality game show

We should probably nominate a few people from the Off Topics.


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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:45 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Mars One intends to fund this decade-long endeavor by involving the whole world as the audience of an interactive, televised broadcast of every aspect of this mission, from the astronaut selections and their preparations to the arrival on Mars and their lives on the Red Planet.


Not sure how I feel about: Mars: The reality game show

We should probably nominate a few people from the Off Topics.


--Andy


So that the resulting reality tv show will have daily abortion and gun rights debates? not a bad idea.

Also, wired article on this thing:
Announced in May, Mars One has an extremely aggressive goal: land a crew of four on the Red Planet by 2023. The company hopes to cut costs with a radical mission. They intend to send people on a one-way trip to set up a colony, with a new set of four settlers arriving every two years after the initial touchdown. Mars One said it intends to pay for the plan by creating “the biggest media spectacle in history” with a reality TV show that will follow the astronauts.

While mentioning that the goal of expanding human civilization is worthy, our experts were not entirely convinced that Mars One’s business model is fully thought through. “It doesn’t strike me as as plausible as the others,” said astronomer Jonathan McDowell.

“I’m not sure there’s enough money out there to fund something as complex and expensive as a human mission to Mars,” said journalist Jeff Foust. “The best I can say is good luck.”

“Going to Mars is 100 times difficult than going to the moon,” said space lawyer Michael Listner. Besides the fact that we don’t currently have the technology to put enough mass for a human mission on the Martian surface, there are many unknowns, including radiation and corrosive dust on Mars and the debilitating effects of long-term space travel, which could deteriorate the astronauts’ bones and eyes. Regulation from Earth governments looking to introduce safety measures could also delay or alter the mission.

Though Mars One estimates their first mission would cost only $6 billion, Listner said the entire plan, including future resupplies and crew, could be on the order of $1 trillion. Funding such a mission through ad sales sounds about as plausible as a Pinky and the Brain plan to take over the world.

“I suspect it wouldn’t be that good for TV,” said Foust. “NASA televises their space activities, and I’m sure almost nobody watches it. It’s mostly tinkering with experiments, replacing an air filter.” Sustaining interest once the novelty wears off could be a major challenge, he added.

Mars One recently converted itself into a nonprofit company, so it will likely have many of the same challenges at something like B612. Though they may be the least likely of the recent private space companies to achieve their goals, “you’ve got to dream big,” said Listner. “And they will certainly inspire a lot of people.”

Bottom line: Mars One has sky-high plans that will most likely struggle to get off the ground.

Link: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/12/audacious-space-companies-2012/?pid=5747
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:01 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Announced in May, Mars One has an extremely aggressive goal: land a crew of four on the Red Planet by 2023. The company hopes to cut costs with a radical mission. They intend to send people on a one-way trip to set up a colony, with a new set of four settlers arriving every two years after the initial touchdown. Mars One said it intends to pay for the plan by creating “the biggest media spectacle in history” with a reality TV show that will follow the astronauts.

While mentioning that the goal of expanding human civilization is worthy, our experts were not entirely convinced that Mars One’s business model is fully thought through. “It doesn’t strike me as as plausible as the others,” said astronomer Jonathan McDowell.

“I’m not sure there’s enough money out there to fund something as complex and expensive as a human mission to Mars,” said journalist Jeff Foust. “The best I can say is good luck.”

“Going to Mars is 100 times difficult than going to the moon,” said space lawyer Michael Listner. Besides the fact that we don’t currently have the technology to put enough mass for a human mission on the Martian surface, there are many unknowns, including radiation and corrosive dust on Mars and the debilitating effects of long-term space travel, which could deteriorate the astronauts’ bones and eyes. Regulation from Earth governments looking to introduce safety measures could also delay or alter the mission.

Though Mars One estimates their first mission would cost only $6 billion, Listner said the entire plan, including future resupplies and crew, could be on the order of $1 trillion. Funding such a mission through ad sales sounds about as plausible as a Pinky and the Brain plan to take over the world.

“I suspect it wouldn’t be that good for TV,” said Foust. “NASA televises their space activities, and I’m sure almost nobody watches it. It’s mostly tinkering with experiments, replacing an air filter.” Sustaining interest once the novelty wears off could be a major challenge, he added.


Ever seen a government agency turn a profit through television? Not quite sure that NASA TV is comparable to a private sector TV business (although Mars One is non-profit, it's still for profit).

Mars One recently converted itself into a nonprofit company, so it will likely have many of the same challenges at something like B612. Though they may be the least likely of the recent private space companies to achieve their goals, “you’ve got to dream big,” said Listner. “And they will certainly inspire a lot of people.”

Bottom line: Mars One has sky-high plans that will most likely struggle to get off the ground.

Link: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/12/audacious-space-companies-2012/?pid=5747
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:06 am

This is a job title I'd like to get. It made me laugh.

“Going to Mars is 100 times difficult than going to the moon,” said space lawyer Michael Listner



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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:25 am

AndyDufresne wrote:This is a job title I'd like to get. It made me laugh.

“Going to Mars is 100 times difficult than going to the moon,” said space lawyer Michael Listner



--Andy


Yeah, but you'd have to go to space law school first. I hear it costs a whole lot of space dollars.

@ this idea. isn't the whole "relying on the entertainment value of the mission in order to fund the mission" kind of a bad idea? As in a efficient mission with no hick-ups will likely not be entertaining.

Basically, you guys ever see The Apprentice? Now imagine that instead of half-competent lying scumbags the contestants would be honest, decent, smart and efficient. Can't imagine that show would last long.
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby Woodruff on Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:30 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:http://applicants.mars-one.com/

Apply within.


Unfortunately, it will never take off. I am sadly completely convinced that this is either a scam (as they take in funding) or a very misguided plan (as their timeline and such is not very sound).

That being said, my wife and I have applied.
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby Woodruff on Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:31 pm

patches70 wrote:I think Juan would be a great candidate to go to Mars! Toss Player and Woodruff in as well. Mets should definitely go too. It'd be an experience of a lifetime. To boldly go where no man has gone before. Hell, look at Woodruffs avatar, he most definitely should be going, Spock would.


Oh, no question...it is absolutely my "cup of tea". For me personally (and my wife as well), it's a matter of the opportunity to stand on another planet.

I applied to be a Teacher In Space with NASA, but was never accepted. This is honestly a dream of mine.

I do think your choice of names as candidates is...uh...interesting, if illogical.
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Re: We're going to Mars

Postby tzor on Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:37 pm

Not me, I prefer the Moon. It has a better view of the Earth.
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:22 pm

Also don't start with the closest trip so you can actually try to make it possible to come back with what you'll learn in case in the process you figure out how to make it easier to do return trips to the next farther place.

Go to the moon. Go twice as far and come back. Go three times as far and come back. Go five times as far and come back. Eventually figure out how to make it to Mars and back.

The USA spends trillions of dollars and has a bunch of actuall proven space equipment. The fact that it has not returned to the moon probably is due to a reason. I question the "really smart scientists." involved in this plan.
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