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Members of the Oregon House expressed a variety of views on the pledge of allegiance but wound up voting emphatically to require schools to offer its daily recitation
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House Bill 3014 requires flags in all public and public charter school classrooms, and requires the schools to offer a daily recitation of the pledge for all students. The bill doesn't make it mandatory for students to stand or recite the pledge, but some lawmakers cautioned that students who don't join in would be stigmatized.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Do people actually have the illusion that this is not indoctrination of the basest kind?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Does this still happen in most countries?(I know I had to do it when growing up, but dunno if the practice is still current). Do you think it should happen? I'm genuinely curious.
Woodruff wrote: None. So what's the point?
Woodruff wrote:The kids don't pay ANY attention to the words they're saying...they're just repeating them.
Gillipig wrote:I like it. It's a positive kind of indoctrination. Better than most of the shit we're being indoctrinated with everyday.
Gillipig wrote:Better than most of the shit we're being indoctrinated with everyday.
Bones2484 wrote:Gillipig wrote:Better than most of the shit we're being indoctrinated with everyday.
Such as?
Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.
Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.
Frigidus wrote:Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.
Even if I could write my own custom indoctrination song/chant for all the kids to repeat in school, I wouldn't be interested. We shouldn't be actively engaging in propaganda.
Gillipig wrote:Bones2484 wrote:Gillipig wrote:Better than most of the shit we're being indoctrinated with everyday.
Such as?
You really can't think of any!? Wow, I don't think I want to waste any time discussing it with you if you need to ask me that. Watch the news, that should give you a taste of indoctrination.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:When I was in elementary school it was compulsory. I used to get in trouble all the time because I'd either not do it or some of us would make up a mockery pledge.
Frankly, I find the idea of making children repeat a pledge repellant.
-TG
Gillipig wrote:Bones2484 wrote:Gillipig wrote:Better than most of the shit we're being indoctrinated with everyday.
Such as?
You really can't think of any!? Wow, I don't think I want to waste any time discussing it with you if you need to ask me that. Watch the news, that should give you a taste of indoctrination.
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